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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

Started by Threviel, March 10, 2019, 02:58:54 PM

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Darth Wagtaros

I loved the Silmarillion. This is just too great a departure for me to enjoy it.  Also, too lame.
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crazy canuck

The opening scene of season 2 episode 1, is that in the the books?

Sophie Scholl

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2024, 06:02:31 AMI loved the Silmarillion. This is just too great a departure for me to enjoy it.  Also, too lame.
I think that is the problem. They don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, only the appendices at the end of RotK or something to that effect. That plus the desire to change story beats and lore for... no discernable reason.  :(
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Quote from: Sophie Scholl on August 30, 2024, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2024, 06:02:31 AMI loved the Silmarillion. This is just too great a departure for me to enjoy it.  Also, too lame.
I think that is the problem. They don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, only the appendices at the end of RotK or something to that effect. That plus the desire to change story beats and lore for... no discernable reason.  :(

It appeals to a very specific audience. Ones who love Lord of the Rings but not enough to have actually read the material.
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Quote from: Valmy on August 30, 2024, 07:39:44 AM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on August 30, 2024, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2024, 06:02:31 AMI loved the Silmarillion. This is just too great a departure for me to enjoy it.  Also, too lame.
I think that is the problem. They don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, only the appendices at the end of RotK or something to that effect. That plus the desire to change story beats and lore for... no discernable reason.  :(

It appeals to a very specific audience. Ones who love Lord of the Rings but not enough to have actually read the material.

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Valmy on August 30, 2024, 07:39:44 AM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on August 30, 2024, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2024, 06:02:31 AMI loved the Silmarillion. This is just too great a departure for me to enjoy it.  Also, too lame.
I think that is the problem. They don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, only the appendices at the end of RotK or something to that effect. That plus the desire to change story beats and lore for... no discernable reason.  :(

It appeals to a very specific audience. Ones who love Lord of the Rings but not enough to have actually read the material.

So probably a very large audience. How many people do you think have actually read the appendices to the books?

Josquius

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 30, 2024, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 30, 2024, 07:39:44 AM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on August 30, 2024, 04:33:23 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on July 27, 2024, 06:02:31 AMI loved the Silmarillion. This is just too great a departure for me to enjoy it.  Also, too lame.
I think that is the problem. They don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, only the appendices at the end of RotK or something to that effect. That plus the desire to change story beats and lore for... no discernable reason.  :(

It appeals to a very specific audience. Ones who love Lord of the Rings but not enough to have actually read the material.

So probably a very large audience. How many people do you think have actually read the appendices to the books?

Agreed.
I think I fall into this. I read the Hobbit and LOTR when I was young. I like them.
But I'm really not one of those super fans who know every snippet of paper Tolkein has ever wrote, all the genealogies of dynasties and ancient history and that sort of thing...
I think I'm a bit more towards this than most, I mean I've gone on some wiki deep dives and I own the Silmarillion at least, but I really don't know many details at all. I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly whats wrong in prequels without seeing the moaning online.

I don't even think it takes a LOTR fan. Post-Game of Thrones and in this age of video games as a well developed medium I'd imagine there's quite the large "Casual fantasy fan" market, for whom LOTR is a well known and respected brand and nothing more.
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Threviel

Watched season 2. It's growing on me.

Silly in places, but no more than any other series bar the first seasons of GoT. Main characters having a habit of not minding wounds that would take years of care to fix and so on.

Sauron is actually believable and a great evil mastermind.

In the last episodes it actually started to  become a good show. I can see where it's going and I like it. I mean, from a Tolkien purist view it's awful, but a Tolkien purist show would be quite boring, with the thousands of years of nothing between events.

Read up on the show runners and apparently they are noonish in the business, might explain the abysmal first season.

Threviel

And the actor playing Gil-Galad is miscast.

Solmyr

Why is that? Most people I've seen are praising him.

Elrond is great as well. His interactions with Durin are always a highlight of the show. You can feel the friendship those two share.

Tamas

I am sorry but using Tolkien for a dark fantasy thing just doesn't work for me. Enough edgelordness in the world as is.

HVC

I disliked the first season so much I can't bring myself to try the second.
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Threviel

Quote from: Tamas on January 11, 2025, 05:10:24 AMI am sorry but using Tolkien for a dark fantasy thing just doesn't work for me. Enough edgelordness in the world as is.

Tolkien was pretty dark. Not in a violence-porn way, but in a historical way.

Threviel

Quote from: Solmyr on January 11, 2025, 04:55:52 AMWhy is that? Most people I've seen are praising him.

Just feels wrong. He doesn't feel like a powerful Noldor elven lord of old, in line with Fingon, Turgon and Finrod.