Elon Musk: Always A Douche

[Syt]

[Grey Fox]

That's why he spent that much money on twitter. So he could say those things without being banned from the platform.

[Berkut]

1. Racism and bigotry is bad.
2. Over-reacting to it and trying to stifle speech that doesn't align with the most radical views on ending #1 is bad as well, and IMO harms the effort to combat #1.
3. Over-over-reacting to #2 is bad, and harms the effort to combat #2, which then goes back to promoting #1.

Humanity is doomed. 

[garbon]

1. Racism and bigotry is bad.
2. Over-reacting to it and trying to stifle speech that doesn't align with the most radical views on ending #1 is bad as well, and IMO harms the effort to combat #1.
3. Over-over-reacting to #2 is bad, and harms the effort to combat #2, which then goes back to promoting #1.

Humanity is doomed.

Doomed in what sense? Humanity didn't meet its end during centuries of racism and bigotry.

[The Larch]

I am neither right nor left = I'm very, very right wing, actually.

[Sheilbh]

I am neither right nor left = I'm very, very right wing, actually.

Quite

[PJL]

I've come to the conclusion that whenever a 'but' appears in a message it immediately invalidates anything written before the 'but'.

[The Larch]

I've come to the conclusion that whenever a 'but' appears in a message it immediately invalidates anything written before the 'but'.

They same the very same thing in Game of Thrones. 

[Jacob]

As I understand it musk is keeping him off not because of the law suits, but because Elon has a dead child and took Jones actions personally. So to recap, free speach is good, unless it makes him feel bad.

But I guess a broken clock can be right in this case of keeping Jones off. 

Yeah that's usually how it is with folks like Musk - "I'm absolutely for free speech when it comes to things that hurt other people and groups; where I draw the line is for things that bother me personally."

[celedhring]

And what's this "counter-narrative" that Musk deems so deeply necessary? That women/minorities/LGTB+ people should shut the fuck up and know their place? We might have a laugh here.

[Tamas]

I've come to the conclusion that whenever a 'but' appears in a message it immediately invalidates anything written before the 'but'.

They same the very same thing in Game of Thrones. 

Yes and it sounds good, but it is not universally true.

[OttoVonBismarck]

My biggest issue with the "anti-woke" movement is it has nothing to do with free speech. These guys like Musk / Rogan/ Tucker Carlson etc don't really care about government speech regulations because at least in the West the government rarely has a major role to play in regulating speech around many of these divisive issues (outside of the schools, I guess.)

What they typically mean is "I want free speech to say something offensive, and I don't want anyone to have free speech to say my offensive words are in bad taste."

An intrinsic part of free speech is that other people are free to criticize your speech, they want that part to not exist.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Some of the weird things I'm starting to see on Twitter:

https://i.imgur.com/VJpnYN2.png

1. I never followed this person, nor do I really engage with LGBT / Trans dialogue on Twitter at all (my follows a mixture of sports, Ukraine war stuff, and some political pundits, and a few weather pages and major news sites)

2. Obviously this has been flagged by Twitter's algorithm as something I should / would want to see, and that certainly was never happening before.

3. It is also obviously a culture war tweet, which is the sort of tweet I've largely ignored or even blocked accounts over historically because I just have no interest in using twitter to get in culture war battles.

[PJL]

My biggest issue with the "anti-woke" movement is it has nothing to do with free speech. These guys like Musk / Rogan/ Tucker Carlson etc don't really care about government speech regulations because at least in the West the government rarely has a major role to play in regulating speech around many of these divisive issues (outside of the schools, I guess.)

What they typically mean is "I want free speech to say something offensive, and I don't want anyone to have free speech to say my offensive words are in bad taste."

An intrinsic part of free speech is that other people are free to criticize your speech, they want that part to not exist.

I've come to the conclusion that the people who are most for free speech/markets/religion etc are the ones who will crack down on anything they don't like. Or to put it another way, they only want freedoms for themselves and no-one else.

[frunk]

I am neither right nor left = I'm very, very right wing, actually.

In the case of Trump and Musk I don't think either one is particularly right wing or left wing.  However they've found the right wing much easier to manipulate so they naturally gravitate that way.