The shit in Spain falls mainly in the fan

[Valmy]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Damn. And I thought he was one of the rare kings who didn't suck.

Juan Carlos? Are you kidding?

Yeah he helped deliver the country from fascism.

[The Larch]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Any idea where to? I feel like Monaco/Monte Cristo is the most appropriate bolthole.

Somewhere without an extradition treaty to Spain and/or Switzerland, if possible. 

I'd vote on him wandering around random Arab courts over the next few years, as it seems that it's where he did most of his "work".

[The Larch]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Damn. And I thought he was one of the rare kings who didn't suck.

Juan Carlos? Are you kidding?

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/royal-scandals/4/

Outrage in Spain over what was seen as King Juan Carlos' extravagant hunting trip to Botswana was so extensive that the king had to issue an apology to the people of his debt-riddled nation. The palace confirmed such an apology was unprecedented in the history of Spain's monarchy. News of the April 2012 trip only surfaced after the king was injured in a fall in Botswana. Many Spaniards were dumbfounded that the king could make such an opulent journey - and, to boot, one to hunt elephants even though he is honorary president of the Spanish branch of the World Wildlife Fund - while everyday people brave a 23 percent unemployment rate

The Bostwana affaire was the trigger to his fall from grace, which has been quite strepitous. The last year or so has seen plenty of shady financial shenanigans come to light, and he's currently under investigation by Swiss authorities.

[celedhring]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Any idea where to? I feel like Monaco/Monte Cristo is the most appropriate bolthole.

I really hope he rents a mansion opposite Puigdemont's in Belgium. Perfect sitcom.

[Josquius]

So....chances of abolition of the monarchy?

And will this be made up for with the readoption of the cool republican flag?

[The Larch]

So....chances of abolition of the monarchy?

And will this be made up for with the readoption of the cool republican flag?

I wouldn't count on it, the current king has worked hard since his accession to the throne to insulate himself from his father's misdeeds (even if his name has been found to appear in some unexpected documents during the investigations), to the point of enacting some symbolic measures earlier this year against him (he extinguished the former king's official allowance, for instance, and has announced that he'll be refusing any personal inheritance from him when it comes to it). In a way, this has already been factored in on the system, and nobody is now suddenly realizing that JC was shady as hell.

[Iormlund]

Abolition would also require a fairly complicated constitutional reform, including a general election.

Separatists and the Left are the most interested in opening that can of worms, bu they would surely also try to stick Title I in there (territorial integrity), which would doom it from the start.

[celedhring]

He's popped up in the Dominican Republic. I really hope he manages to get himself crowned King of Hispaniola (which would give them cores on Haiti).

So....chances of abolition of the monarchy?

And will this be made up for with the readoption of the cool republican flag?

As the others said, the constitutional process of removing the monarchy is quite arduous, and it won't prosper without the agreement of the largest conservative party. And we don't live in times of national consensuses anymore.

The monarchy/republic issue has always been roughly 50/50 in Spain. However, the vast majority of republicans (like me) always had it way down in their reform priorities, given that the Spanish king is merely a ceremonial monarch. Now, if he abuses his position to enrich himself, that will start to eat at that tacit agreement of just letting the monarchy be.

[Sheilbh]

I am very jealous that you've managed to force out one royal over their crimes, while we still, presumably, have Prince Andrew loitering in one of their palaces after all he's done/knows

[The Larch]

I am very jealous that you've managed to force out one royal over their crimes, while we still, presumably, have Prince Andrew loitering in one of their palaces after all he's done/knows

It's been a long process, the Botswana incident was back in 2012.

[Sheilbh]

I mean...so was Epstein's first conviction

[viper37]

I mean...so was Epstein's first conviction

tbh (I hate defending the Royals...), it's only been last year since the FBI has asked Prince Andrews to answer some questions and come to meet them.

[The Larch]

So, the Spanish Supreme Court has just declared that Torra, the Catalan regional president, is inhabilitated for public office due to dissobeying court orders for a previous case. Now most probably new regional elections will have to be announced for early next year.

[celedhring]

So, the Spanish Supreme Court has just declared that Torra, the Catalan regional president, is inhabilitated for public office due to dissobeying court orders for a previous case. Now most probably new regional elections will have to be announced for early next year.

The regular procedure would be for the Catalan Parliament to just appoint another president until the current term expires in 2022, but the several parties of the separatist majority despise each other nearly as much as they despise Spain, so we'll default to elections in 4 months.

[celedhring]

Just saw one of the posters that Vox (Spain's far right party) is using to promote their motion of no confidence against the socialist government. 



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