The shit in Spain falls mainly in the fan

[Sheilbh]

A Murillo too............probably worth millions............but "lets get that chap who fixed the kitchen chairs to sort out our old masters" 

I know. And God give me the confidence of a furniture cleaner who quotes a grand to restore a 17th century painting

[The Larch]

It was not a proper Murillo, but a copy of one.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Ah........more explicable then.

[celedhring]

Yeah, some media are neglecting the fact it's not an original when reporting the news.

Not sure how old the damaged copy is though. I presume it was still valuable.

[The Larch]

Yeah, some media are neglecting the fact it's not an original when reporting the news.

Not sure how old the damaged copy is though. I presume it was still valuable.

I read somewhere that it was made by a disciple of Murillo, so probably it was some kind of practice exercise while the disciple was doing his apprenticeship at Murillo's workshop, so even if it's not an original one, it's still pretty old.

[celedhring]

Yeah, some media are neglecting the fact it's not an original when reporting the news.

Not sure how old the damaged copy is though. I presume it was still valuable.

I read somewhere that it was made by a disciple of Murillo, so probably it was some kind of practice exercise while the disciple was doing his apprenticeship at Murillo's workshop, so even if it's not an original one, it's still pretty old.

If it was from Murillo's workshop then it was certainly quite valuable.

[The Larch]

Yeah, some media are neglecting the fact it's not an original when reporting the news.

Not sure how old the damaged copy is though. I presume it was still valuable.

I read somewhere that it was made by a disciple of Murillo, so probably it was some kind of practice exercise while the disciple was doing his apprenticeship at Murillo's workshop, so even if it's not an original one, it's still pretty old.

If it was from Murillo's workshop then it was certainly quite valuable.

Yeah, it might not be an invaluable masterpiece but it's still a remarkable piece from the XVIIth century.

[The Brain]

Are paintings (that are not part of the wall of a historic building or similar) generally protected by law in countries? I know that old buildings are protected to different degrees, but paintings? I am not sure what Swedish law looks like when it comes to this.

[Tonitrus]

Oof, probably better to let it fade into oblivion than fuck up a restoration like that. 

[Duque de Bragança]

It was not a proper Murillo, but a copy of one.

So only a test run for the real one? I feel reassured now.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

testruns and copies of artworks are often enough artworks themselves, and can't really serve as an excuse for that level of incompetence

[The Larch]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

[Sheilbh]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Any idea where to? I feel like Monaco/Monte Cristo is the most appropriate bolthole.

[Valmy]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Damn. And I thought he was one of the rare kings who didn't suck.

[Syt]

Soooo, King Juan Carlos has just announced he'll be leaving the country due to all his financial extra curriculars coming to light recently.

Damn. And I thought he was one of the rare kings who didn't suck.

Juan Carlos? Are you kidding?

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/royal-scandals/4/

Outrage in Spain over what was seen as King Juan Carlos' extravagant hunting trip to Botswana was so extensive that the king had to issue an apology to the people of his debt-riddled nation. The palace confirmed such an apology was unprecedented in the history of Spain's monarchy. News of the April 2012 trip only surfaced after the king was injured in a fall in Botswana. Many Spaniards were dumbfounded that the king could make such an opulent journey - and, to boot, one to hunt elephants even though he is honorary president of the Spanish branch of the World Wildlife Fund - while everyday people brave a 23 percent unemployment rate