The shit in Spain falls mainly in the fan

[Iormlund]

From the looks of it nobody outside Spain cares anymore. But nevertheless I think that would be a mistake. As we saw in this very thread about the only point they scored abroad was on the "we just want to vote and they won't let us" narrative. That comes crashing down if they forcibly tamper with elections.

[celedhring]

The same group that orchestrated the airport blockade has summoned people in downtown Barcelona the evening before the election. Catalan police fears they'll intend to occupy polling stations in the Barcelona area (which of course leans unionist  ), there are also some messaging coming from the CDR grapevine that they intend to do so.

We'll see. I agree that it'd be beyond idiotic from a PR perspective, but some parts of separatism are fully in "some people just want to see the world burn" phase.

[The Brain]

Has the Brexit crap had any impact on their wish to leave the EU?

[celedhring]

Has the Brexit crap had any impact on their wish to leave the EU?

"The EU isn't that great anyway".

[The Brain]

Has the Brexit crap had any impact on their wish to leave the EU?

"The EU isn't that great anyway".

I see...

[Josquius]

Wait, they want to leave the EU?
I thought the whole idea was the same as with Scotland, to smoothly switch over to being an independent EU member.

[The Larch]

Wait, they want to leave the EU?
I thought the whole idea was the same as with Scotland, to smoothly switch over to being an independent EU member.

They don't want to leave the EU per se. Their running assumption while the process was still civil was that they'd transition to being an EU member but as an independent country. When things turned sour and they saw that by and large the EU kept itself away from the mess and didn't want to get involved into a member country's internal issues they started expressing in disbelief how could it be that the EU was not inserting itself as a mediator to get them independence, and now they're in kind of a "if this is what the EU is about we don't really want to be part of it anyway".

In any case, political realism has left the building a long time ago.

[Josquius]

That's sad. I did see a lot of brexiters quite oddly taking up the catalan independence cause (how dare the EU not interfere in member state affairs!) and using it as a stick de jure to attack Europe about.
Which is funny when you think of it considering the old Republican Spain associations that I believe still hold amongst catalan independence groups and the political leanings of Britain's shit.
But surprising the catalans themselves are also swallowing this line.

[The Brain]

Wait, they want to leave the EU?
I thought the whole idea was the same as with Scotland, to smoothly switch over to being an independent EU member.

If they leave Spain abruptly (which some of them appear to want) they automatically leave the EU.

[merithyn]

So... what are the chances this will all be right as rain by, say, December 9?

[celedhring]

So... what are the chances this will all be right as rain by, say, December 9?

You should be fine, don't worry. I can't see anything happening by that date (protests are usually very reactive).

[merithyn]

So... what are the chances this will all be right as rain by, say, December 9?

You should be fine, don't worry. I can't see anything happening by that date (protests are usually very reactive).

I'll count on you to tell me where to avoid, should that become necessary.

[celedhring]

Yeah for sure, but it will be fine. Nothing to protest against happening in those dates.

[Duque de Bragança]

Independentists are blocking the motorway between France and Spain, so now the Gendarmerie gets to join the fun.

https://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/operation-pour-deloger-les-independantistes-qui-bloquent-l-autoroute-france-espagne-20191112

[celedhring]

Dunno who told them that it was a better idea to set this up in the French side of the border, I guess they haven't been paying attention to the Gendarmerie exchanging pleasantries with the yellow vests for months. The French cops have even used tear gas.