The shit in Spain falls mainly in the fan

Started by celedhring, September 06, 2017, 02:44:20 PM

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celedhring

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 05, 2017, 11:37:33 AM
Any nasty arguments with your separatist buddies Celery?

Yeah. Several. The atmosphere around here is comparable to Venus' at this point.


Josquius

Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2017, 11:33:00 AM
Pretty sure that's a Russian bot thing though. I can't see why Catalan separatists would spread memes in English. Plus my separatist friends constantly flood my social media timelines with that stuff (god, are they annoying), and it's the first time I see that one.

They seem to be going pretty hard to get international support.
My Scottish seperatist friends are really up for Catalan independence
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derspiess

Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2017, 11:33:00 AM
Pretty sure that's a Russian bot thing though. I can't see why Catalan separatists would spread memes in English.

I guess maybe the same reason they have protest signs in English.  Trying to gain international sympathy.
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viper37

Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2017, 11:33:00 AM
Pretty sure that's a Russian bot thing though.
that's a likely possibility.  Honestly, you can't really prevent cops for re-entering the country by blockading the road with a tractor.  They arrest the driver(s), call a towing and clear the way. Gone in 60 minutes.
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celedhring

Caixabank's board meeting tomorrow to debate relocation out of Catalonia. That's Catalonia's largest company.

See "This is fine" meme above.

viper37

Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2017, 12:40:38 PM
Caixabank's board meeting tomorrow to debate relocation out of Catalonia. That's Catalonia's largest company.

See "This is fine" meme above.
https://www.ft.com/content/f09c8cb3-918d-3877-8f32-b8173ebc0fef?mhq5j=e7

I understand the move, they don't have much choice to protect their clients by legally moving the HQ out of there but still keeping the physical HQ where they are.
I'm surprised they're not already registered in Andorra...
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Iormlund

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Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2017, 12:17:03 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 05, 2017, 11:37:33 AM
Any nasty arguments with your separatist buddies Celery?

Yeah. Several. The atmosphere around here is comparable to Venus' at this point.

One of my Catalonian colleagues - a moderate unionist much like Celed - has had to unfriend half his contacts in Facebook and leave many of his Whatsapp groups. He's really touchy about this stuff by now.

Barrister

Hey Celed - are you Catalan yourself, or are you an import from somewhere else in the country?
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Iormlund

My girlfriend is in a constant state of disbelief at work. All her coworkers are separatists, and they have been complaining all week about the violence, repression and how Spain treats them so poorly, how everything is so chaotic. It drives her nuts. They even said that it was worse than Venezuela (probably repeating something they heard or read in TV). That really pissed her off.  :lol:
She told them they ought to spend a week in Venezuela themselves and report later. She told them about how here halfsis got shot while demonstrating, how she couldn't even get out of the building for days the last time she was there, how everyone has lost over 15 pounds and how diphtheria and malaria are coming back thanks to food and medicine scarcity. I don't think she convinced any one of them though.

celedhring

Quote from: Barrister on October 05, 2017, 01:04:46 PM
Hey Celed - are you Catalan yourself, or are you an import from somewhere else in the country?

Catalan born and bred. All my close family are separatists.

Iormlund

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Quote from: celedhring on October 05, 2017, 04:19:35 AM
Looks like BancSabadell is going to up sticks. They have a board meeting this afternoon with the relocation on the table.

Maybe the solution to our conflict is becoming poor enough so that we remove the whole "wealthy people nationalism" aspect.

They have approved the move to Alicante. Presumably tomorrow Caixabank will follow suit.

It seems the government is studying a decree that would allow businesses to move out of Catalonia (within Spain) without consulting with their shareholders. Apparently the Socialists will support it.

Drakken

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Quote from: Iormlund on October 05, 2017, 01:05:27 PM
My girlfriend is in a constant state of disbelief at work. All her coworkers are separatists, and they have been complaining all week about the violence, repression and how Spain treats them so poorly, how everything is so chaotic. It drives her nuts. They even said that it was worse than Venezuela (probably repeating something they heard or read in TV). That really pissed her off.  :lol:
She told them they ought to spend a week in Venezuela themselves and report later. She told them about how here halfsis got shot while demonstrating, how she couldn't even get out of the building for days the last time she was there, how everyone has lost over 15 pounds and how diphtheria and malaria are coming back thanks to food and medicine scarcity. I don't think she convinced any one of them though.

Given the circumstances, for her security, can she afford to leave Catalonia before things come to shove?

There are no guarantees that it won't degenerate fast when the bell tolls and Madrid has had enough. Right now, everyone in Catalonia must think about their personal safety first, and it seems it has already started to put brother against brother.

Valmy

Fortunately Catalonians are not as heavily armed as Texas secessionists.
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Iormlund

Quote from: Drakken on October 05, 2017, 02:01:31 PM
Given the circumstances, for her security, can she afford to leave Catalonia before things come to shove?

There are no guarantees that things won't get to a head fast when the bell tolls and Madrid has had enough. Right now, everyone in Catalonia must think about their personal safety first, and it seems it has already started to put brother against brother.

Things are not that bad. And I can't see violence becoming the norm. Perhaps between protesters and police forces when the instigators of the coup are being arrested.

She can't leave Catalonia anyway. She is in Spain on a highly qualified employee visa (she's an engineer). That means her visa is revoked if she leaves the company. However said company is a big multinational that would likely shift operations to another location in case of UDI (probably Madrid or Seville).

Eddie Teach

Quote from: Valmy on October 05, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Fortunately Catalonians are not as heavily armed as Texas secessionists.

I'll take your word, as I don't know any.
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