Élection présidentielle française

[Duque de Bragança]

French plans are or rather were indicative, not coercitive. 

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planification_économique

L'usage de plans quinquennaux, sous différentes formes, s'est aussi répandu dans les démocraties populaires et occidentales, dont la France, qui, via le Commissariat général du Plan, l'a utilisé jusqu'en 2005, ainsi que des pays comme le Canada ou le Maroc. Néanmoins, le système de planification du Commissariat Général du Plan était un système de planification économique indicative, et non coercitive comme c'était le cas en URSS.

Emphasis mine.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planification_en_France

Only ended in 2006, thought it was mostly renaming.

PS: last nitpicking, not necessarily five-year plans, four or three too.

[Valmy]

Yes I didn't mean to imply they had the French Cheka shooting people in the back of the head Duque

Still doesn't mean they were a great idea.

[Duque de Bragança]

Yes I didn't mean to imply they had the French Cheka shooting people in the back of the head Duque

Still doesn't mean they were a great idea.

Why not? Louis Aragon, a great French poet, wrote a poem glorifying the G.P.U. (written in French Guépéou).
I'd rather have indicative or rather incitative four-year plans (if five is too stalinist)!

Il nous faut un Guépéou par Louis ARAGON (1931)
Extrait du poème : Prélude au temps des cerises

Je chante le Guépéou qui se forme
En France à l'heure qu'il est
Je chante le Guépéou nécessaire de France
Je chante les Guépéous de nulle part et de partout
Je demande un Guépéou pour préparer la fin d'un monde
Demandez un Guépéou pour préparer la fin d'un monde
Pour défendre ceux qui sont trahis
Pour défendre ceux qui sont toujours trahis
Demandez un Guépéou vous qu'on plie et vous qu'on tue
Demandez un Guépéou
Il vous faut un Guépéou
Vive le Guépéou figure dialectique de l'héroïsme
qu'on peut opposer à cette image imbécile des aviateurs
tenus par les imbéciles pour des héros quand ils se foutent
la gueule par terre
Vive le Guépéou véritable image de la grandeur matérialiste Vive le Guépéou contre dieu Chiappe et la «Marseillaise»
Vive le Guépéou contre le pape et les poux Vive le Guépéou contre la résignation des banques Vive le Guépéou contre les manœuvres de l'Est Vive le Guépéou contre la famille
Vive le Guépéou contre les lois scélérates
Vive Guépéou contre le socialisme des assassins du type
Caballero Boncour Mac Donald Zœrgibel
Vive le Guépéou contre tous les ennemis du Prolétariat
VIVE LE GUÉPÉOU

https://www.marxists.org/francais/malaquais/works/1947/02/patriote.htm

[Valmy]

Ok that was beautiful. You may be winning me over here.

[Duque de Bragança]

Ok that was beautiful.

I don't believe that was his best poem but to each his own.
Maybe "L'avenir de l'homme est la femme" in Le Fou d'Elsa. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Fou_d%27Elsa
However, he did not live by that verse or poem by the end of his life. 

You may be winning me over here.

En marche !

[Josquius]

Internet trolls in tears

Pics or it didn't happen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/colin-johnson-refund_uk_59105ff3e4b0104c73505cf5?uwf

[grumbler]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/colin-johnson-refund_uk_59105ff3e4b0104c73505cf5?uwf

Who stays logged on to betting sites?

Sounds like a welsher to me.

[derspiess]

Globalization is, in my mind, an economic phenomenon. Sure some political things are of course required for free trade to work, of course, but those are negotiated between nations not through the UN or whatever.

Sure, but I thought we were talking about globalism.

[grumbler]

Globalization is, in my mind, an economic phenomenon. Sure some political things are of course required for free trade to work, of course, but those are negotiated between nations not through the UN or whatever.

Sure, but I thought we were talking about globalism.

Agree that globalization and globalism should be considered different things, but they are pretty much used interchangeably except by the far right, where globalism is a tinfoil-hat theory about plots to create a world government.  On the far left, the tinfoil-hat theory is about "multinationals" taking control of the world, which I'd argue should be considered another "globalism" belief. 

Globalism should properly be the belief that there are issues best dealt with on a global basis, but people seem to use globalization for that.

[Valmy]

Yeah I was not aware they were different things since the terms are used so interchangeably.

[Zanza]

Globalization is just an observable economic fact, whereas Globalism is a supposedly existing ideology to further this development, typically to the detriment of some kind of national entity.

[The Minsky Moment]

So yeah. Voted Macron in the end  God this feeling sucks.

Hope you fuckers are happy. 

Good man.
Being part of a democracy that has FPTP or two-person run-offs means learning to hold one's nose while pulling the lever.
The difference between the lesser and worse of 2 evils can be as great as the difference between good and evil

[Malthus]

So yeah. Voted Macron in the end  God this feeling sucks.

Hope you fuckers are happy. 

Good man.
Being part of a democracy that has FPTP or two-person run-offs means learning to hold one's nose while pulling the lever.
The difference between the lesser and worse of 2 evils can be as great as the difference between good and evil

Reminds me of the popular bumper sticker in the Edwards vs. Duke election, where the notoriously corrupt Edwards was up against the neo-Nazi David Duke:

"Vote For the Crook. It's Important."



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Edwards#Second_comeback:_Edwards_vs._Duke.2C_1991

[The Minsky Moment]

Lol , "World Governance".  Foil, thy name is tin.

HELP!  GEORGE SOROS IS COMING TO GET MY GUNS!!!

[Zanza]