Great Story from Iran

[Warspite]

Iran is not Hungary.

[Viking]

What really stands out to me:

He said his salary had been tripled since the protests erupted and that he feels numb to everything around him.

There's been rumblings in the police that the regime has had to try and control?

Yeah that and the fact that he's from outside Tehran struck me as the most interesting points.

The local police would naturally identify themselves with the protesters on the street. In Leipzig the DDR was finished when they saw that the Leipzig police were unwilling to use violence against peaceful demonstrators. At Tiananmen however, the CCP brought in soldiers from outside Beijing to do what the local militia and local police refused to do.

[Siege]

Sure, Iran is such a nice country.

'I screamed: How dare you grab my girls'
By SABINA AMIDI, SPECIAL TO THE JERUSALEM POST

It was a relatively minor incident on the quietened streets of Teheran, but it is one that points to the depth of anti-regime antagonism felt even by some Iranians who consider themselves loyal supporters of the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini's revolution.

In a telephone interview with this reporter from the Iranian capital, a conservative mother of six first denounced the regime for "trying to silence the people" in the wake of last month's disputed presidential elections," and then accused its leaders of trying to "hide behind their false interpretation of the Imam's [Khomeini's] teachings. This is not what he would have wanted for our country if he was still alive," she said, "and I know his prayers will helps us prevail."

So, basicly, what this is saying is that iranian regime is not conservative enough for this woman's taste. She is accussing the goverment of being not conservative enough and of not adhering to muslim shia values.

I would like to know how this woman feels about the US.

[Neil]

Iran is not Hungary.

Indeed.  It's much worse.  At least the Hungarians, although barbaric, have the seeds of civilization in them.

[Ed Anger]

Hungarians got civilized when the Germans assraped them at Lechfeld. Otto saved their souls by killing a bunch of them.

[Razgovory]

Iran is not Hungary.

It just ate.

[Siege]

Iran is not Hungary.

Indeed.  It's much worse.  At least the Hungarians, although barbaric, have the seeds of civilization in them.

Hungarians had a viable civilization long before your irish forefathers learnt how to read and write. And they had to put up with the Ottoman Empire.

[Neil]

Iran is not Hungary.

Indeed.  It's much worse.  At least the Hungarians, although barbaric, have the seeds of civilization in them.

Hungarians had a viable civilization long before your irish forefathers learnt how to read and write. And they had to put up with the Ottoman Empire.

I'm not Irish.

[Josquius]

I think you're wrong on that, from everything I've read Iran's nowhere near as bad in terms of what you can say and the oppressiveness of the police service as the Soviet Union or Soviet bloc, or even China, though that's changing. 

Indeed.
The reason the current events are such a big deal is that the world expected Iran to behave democratically as it normally does. If it was just a regular dictatorship doing a business as normal election rig it wouldn't be such a issue.

And I remember speaking to a German girl, who was fluent in Arabic, who said that if Arabic speaking Western women ever had a problem in the Middle East they should confront the man, because it's such a taboo to touch an unknown woman (especially in this case).  It's the 'have you no shame, touching me' aspect (and the general behaviour of the woman) that rings relatively true to me.

Don't a lot of Arabs have messed up double standards with western women though?- at the extreme "they're probably already unclean so its fine to rape them!"

[Ed Anger]

Iran is not Hungary.

Indeed.  It's much worse.  At least the Hungarians, although barbaric, have the seeds of civilization in them.

Hungarians had a viable civilization long before your irish forefathers learnt how to read and write. And they had to put up with the Ottoman Empire.

I'm not Irish.

He wants your pot of gold. he can't help himself.

[Neil]

I think you're wrong on that, from everything I've read Iran's nowhere near as bad in terms of what you can say and the oppressiveness of the police service as the Soviet Union or Soviet bloc, or even China, though that's changing. 

Indeed.
The reason the current events are such a big deal is that the world expected Iran to behave democratically as it normally does. If it was just a regular dictatorship doing a business as normal election rig it wouldn't be such a issue.

The world expected the election to be rigged, as it in fact was.  The reason that the current events are a big deal is because the supporters of the candidates were fighting it out in the streets.  Only naive, anti-Western morons like yourself think that Iran behaves in a manner that would be considered 'democratically'.  The standards of democracy are a bit higher than that.

[Josquius]

The world expected the election to be rigged, as it in fact was.  The reason that the current events are a big deal is because the supporters of the candidates were fighting it out in the streets.  Only naive, anti-Western morons like yourself think that Iran behaves in a manner that would be considered 'democratically'.  The standards of democracy are a bit higher than that.

Its a stretch to call them a democracy on a par with the west given that the candidates have to be OKed before they can run and the powers of the Supreme Leader and all that but once the election is under way they do indeed behave democratically. Only naiive, racist morons think that Iran behaves in a manner that would be considered a totalitarian dictatorship.
You shouldn't overlook that Ahmajinedad's very getting into power in the first place was a complete fluke that came about due to democracy.

[Neil]

but once the election is under way they do indeed behave democratically.

It's been a while since rioters and armed thugs were out contesting the vote in most democracies.

[Josquius]

but once the election is under way they do indeed behave democratically.

It's been a while since rioters and armed thugs were out contesting the vote in most democracies.

It's the same in Iran. Hence this year being such a big event

[Neil]

but once the election is under way they do indeed behave democratically.

It's been a while since rioters and armed thugs were out contesting the vote in most democracies.

It's the same in Iran. Hence this year being such a big event

Saddam won 99% of the vote without riots and whatnot.  Saddam's Iraq was apparently a better democracy than Iran.