If the Republicans decide Trump has to go....how will they go about it?

[Valmy]

If he's ousted by a Republican coup, it will confirm the beliefs of everyone who thinks that political elites will protect power for themselves and will not allow outsiders into important positions.

a valuable lesson...

Blatantly an untrue one. Outsiders regularly get elected to every office imaginable. For all the good it usually does us.

[Valmy]

For impeachment, it would need to be about treason.

Two Presidents have been impeached and in neither case was it for treason.

what I meant is, to rally everyone behind (well, 2/3 of the Senates and the public opinion).
I'm unconvinced that simply spying on the other camp, as Nixon did, would be an impeachable offense in today's political climate.  Many Republicans seemed to approve of the DNC hack.

Any sort of crime and misdemeanor is sufficient if the President is adequately hated. I am not even sure what crime Andrew Johnson committed and he only survived by one vote.

[Syt]

If he's ousted by a Republican coup, it will confirm the beliefs of everyone who thinks that political elites will protect power for themselves and will not allow outsiders into important positions.

a valuable lesson...

Blatantly an untrue one. Outsiders regularly get elected to every office imaginable. For all the good it usually does us.

Not saying that it's true, just that a vocal group will see it that way. And you'll likely hear about it longer than about Benghazi.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

If he's ousted by a Republican coup, it will confirm the beliefs of everyone who thinks that political elites will protect power for themselves and will not allow outsiders into important positions.

a valuable lesson...

Blatantly an untrue one. Outsiders regularly get elected to every office imaginable. For all the good it usually does us.

one swallow does not a summer make.

Especially not of outsiders can be co-opted into the system.

[Valmy]

Especially not of outsiders can be co-opted into the system.

Even if not co-opted they all learn to work together eventually. Which is why the system is fine allowing outsiders into important positions. If it didn't the system would have long since ceased to exist.

[Jacob]

Even if not co-opted they all learn to work together eventually. Which is why the system is fine allowing outsiders into important positions. If it didn't the system would have long since ceased to exist.

For a not-insignificant proportion of the outsider supporters, anything short of "tear down the system completely and usher in utopia (and/or really hurt people I don't like)" counts as co-opting.

[jimmy olsen]

Please remember that Mike Pence is way worse than Trump.

Domestically, in some way he is.

But he's much less likely to get millions of people killed and destroy 70 years of American foreign policy. Something that makes him far more palatable than Trump.

[derspiess]

Please remember that Mike Pence is way worse than Trump.

I prefer Pence

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Especially not of outsiders can be co-opted into the system.

Even if not co-opted they all learn to work together eventually. Which is why the system is fine allowing outsiders into important positions. If it didn't the system would have long since ceased to exist.

which is an excellent way to protect wealth and influence. Those that can't be co-opted leave quickly enough, the rest joins. And if a revolution does happen, a new elite is formed and cycle starts again.

[katmai]

Please remember that Mike Pence is way worse than Trump.

I prefer Pence

I'm sure you do

[Valmy]

which is an excellent way to protect wealth and influence. Those that can't be co-opted leave quickly enough, the rest joins. And if a revolution does happen, a new elite is formed and cycle starts again.

The best way to protect wealth and influence is, indeed, to be inclusive. Trying to keep people out is how revolutions happen.

But, last I checked, government civil servants are not exactly the super wealthy.

[Habbaku]

Please remember that Mike Pence is way worse than Trump.

I prefer Pence

Over Trump?  Absolutely.  People that have convinced themselves that Pence is worse than Trump are fooling themselves.  Pence can do damage.  Trump can destroy.

[Berkut]

Please remember that Mike Pence is way worse than Trump.

I prefer Pence

So do I, and it isn't even close.

Pence is a right wing ignorant dumbass, but he isn't personally a despicable human being. He would be a bad President, but has no potential to be a catastrophically bad President.

[dps]

Any sort of crime and misdemeanor is sufficient if the President is adequately hated. I am not even sure what crime Andrew Johnson committed and he only survived by one vote.

He was accused of violating the Tenure in Office Act.  And, technically,for what it's worth, he was guilty of doing so, if you think the Act was constitutional.  The Supreme Court did eventually rule that it was unconstitutional, but not until 1913, IIRC.  Of course, after Johnson was acquitted, everybody ignored the Act anyway.

[CountDeMoney]

Please remember that Mike Pence is way worse than Trump.

Yeah, if you're a woman.  We have to pick our battles here, though.