Whither Obamacare?

[grumbler]

I don't really know enough about Bernie to know why so many here seem to dislike him.  The picture I have of him, which admittedly could be very off, is that he's  eurotype socialist, but people here fear him as a South American type socialist.

The average American is dying with 62k in debt, it might be time for euro socialism.

Bernie is a left-wing populist.  He says what his listeners want to hear.  He has basically done nothing since he took office except talk.  He has sponsored no bills, written no legislation, developed no plans, or openly weighed any options.  He just makes promises without regard to how they can be fulfilled.  If that's what Euro socialists are, then I don't think Eurosocialism is the answer.

[Eddie Teach]

He sponsored quite a few amendments to bills though.

[Monoriu]

Whatever his policy were they would have been better then trumps

Just a different flavor of incompetence.

I don't really know enough about Bernie to know why so many here seem to dislike him.  The picture I have of him, which admittedly could be very off, is that he's  eurotype socialist, but people here fear him as a South American type socialist.

The average American is dying with 62k in debt, it might be time for euro socialism.

Bernie Sanders is a trade protectionist.

[Admiral Yi]

One difference I see between Bernie and Euro Social Democrats is that Bernie wants to tax those bad people over there and give it to Teh People, whereas SDs I think say we need to tax ourselves to pay for stuff that we want and need.  That does in fact make him closer to Latin American and African populist expropriation types.

[DGuller]

Why not just give us great healthcare now?

I really wish they would stop trying to kill me like they knew me.  If it was personal, that's one thing.  But I'm not even in the demographics they hate, for fuck's sake.

You may not be in the demographics they hate, but you're in the demographic they love to fuck over.  It's not their fault your demographic enjoys it.

[Eddie Teach]

, but you're in the demographic they love to fuck over.

Humans?

[grumbler]

He sponsored quite a few amendments to bills though.

Nothing meaningful, though.

[jimmy olsen]

Doesn't Ryan listen to the lyrics?  Or is he one of those that only cares for cool guitar riffs?

Vulture has a great article on Rage Against the Machine and it's influence
http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/rage-against-the-machine-were-24-years-early.html

...

If new music from Rage was nowhere to be found, Rage's message continued to resonate, and often in the most unlikely eardrums. It was strange indeed to hear, in 2012, Paul Ryan, then Mitt Romney's vice-presidential nominee and soon-to-be House Speaker, confess in a campaign interview with the New York Post that Rage Against the Machine was one of his favorite bands.

Though Morello would denounce Ryan as the embodiment of everything that Rage opposed, Ryan's fondness for the band was nonetheless more than accidental. Rage's lyrics assailed the state from the far-left as the chief enforcer of a racist society and capitalist economy, but anti-statist ideology is central to American far-right ideology, which views the state as an enabler of non-white minorities and/or a threat to capitalist accumulation. America is an odd place. Most citizens rage in the name of their own individual goodness; few believe themselves to be a part of the evil, faceless machine raged against. Like many Rage fans sharing his race, Ryan had applied his talent for tuning out anything that contradicted his idea of what "race relations" really were. If this pathological gift enables one to bleach out Rage's verses and invert (as Ryan's idol Ayn Rand did) Rage's idea that labor creates and capital steals, the band sounds like a call-to-arms for reactionaries.

...

[Ed Anger]

Great, RTHM over analysis.

[CountDeMoney]

It bothers Ed that black people are on TV now.

[Ed Anger]

It bothers Ed that black people are on TV now.

I support Bill Cosby.

[CountDeMoney]

I support Bill Cosby.

Not on TV, you didn't. 

[Ed Anger]

I support Bill Cosby.

Not on TV, you didn't.

Druggie Bill is more fun.

[MadImmortalMan]

Great, RTHM over analysis.

The best way to piss off a poet is to try to explain what his works mean.

[PDH]

Great, RTHM over analysis.

The best way to piss off a poet is to try to explain what his works mean.

Not in Santa Cruz - here they say "Oh wow, that is so you! Run with that!"  Then they smoke more weed for their glaucoma.