2017 impeachment - because it's never too early

[Admiral Yi]

One issue that hasn't been addressed is Hillary's looks.  Maybe a woman of Hillary's age is just too unattractive to win national office.

[viper37]

I personally will file the "the Clintons didn't allow any democrat to shine for 8 years so there wasn't another Obama" alongside the "the Clintons killed Vince Foster" folder and the "Hillary is a sexual pawn of Huma Abedin who's actually an Al-Qaeda plant" folder.

There are more simpler reasons for the weakness of the Dem field this year. And yes, not wanting to run against the Dem establishment favorite was a strong one, without needing to imagine vast Clinton conspiracies to keep everybody else down.

Let me run this by you and tell me what you think: "Few potential Democrat primary candidates wanted to run against the Clinton machine."

that's not the same as an active conspiracy by the Clintons to squash any kind of opposition as far back as 8 years ago.

[garbon]

One issue that hasn't been addressed is Hillary's looks.  Maybe a woman of Hillary's age is just too unattractive to win national office.

[Razgovory]

I personally will file the "the Clintons didn't allow any democrat to shine for 8 years so there wasn't another Obama" alongside the "the Clintons killed Vince Foster" folder and the "Hillary is a sexual pawn of Huma Abedin who's actually an Al-Qaeda plant" folder.

There are more simpler reasons for the weakness of the Dem field this year. And yes, not wanting to run against the Dem establishment favorite was a strong one, without needing to imagine vast Clinton conspiracies to keep everybody else down.

Let me run this by you and tell me what you think: "Few potential Democrat primary candidates wanted to run against the Clinton machine."

The Clinton Machine runs on Kerosene and uses a Intel 80486.

[The Minsky Moment]

The Clinton Machine runs on Kerosene and uses a Intel 80486.

I.e. its rock solid reliable and doesn't crash, but has a habit of giving off nasty fumes.

[Barrister]

I personally will file the "the Clintons didn't allow any democrat to shine for 8 years so there wasn't another Obama" alongside the "the Clintons killed Vince Foster" folder and the "Hillary is a sexual pawn of Huma Abedin who's actually an Al-Qaeda plant" folder.

There are more simpler reasons for the weakness of the Dem field this year. And yes, not wanting to run against the Dem establishment favorite was a strong one, without needing to imagine vast Clinton conspiracies to keep everybody else down.

Let me run this by you and tell me what you think: "Few potential Democrat primary candidates wanted to run against the Clinton machine."

The Clinton Machine runs on Kerosene and uses a Intel 80486.

How did you get the technical specs on Hillary's email server?????

[Ideologue]

I never supported Trump either. Saying that Trump is not the Antichrist incarnate to a bunch of morons perceiving the world as a Manichean struggle is not the same as supporting him.

I don't think Trump is the Antichrist incarnate.

I do.  It would explain the voter turnout.  Everybody who was going to get raptured was on November 7th.  It's just that the bulk of them happened to lean Democrat.  THANKS YHWH

[Martinus]

I never supported Trump either. Saying that Trump is not the Antichrist incarnate to a bunch of morons perceiving the world as a Manichean struggle is not the same as supporting him.

I don't think Trump is the Antichrist incarnate.

I do.  It would explain the voter turnout.  Everybody who was going to get raptured was on November 7th.  It's just that the bulk of them happened to lean Democrat.  THANKS YHWH

Ok, you are trying to get me to support him. Is that it?

[Ideologue]

Occam's razor suggests that a candidate that wins in a democratic election wins because he is more popular among the electorate.

I think Donald Trump's victory shows that clearly.

Does it?  Run those numbers again, bud.

[Eddie Teach]

See you would always say things about the " Clinton Machine" and make her sound amazing and powerful. But she couldn't even beat Donald Trump and just barely beat an elderly commie. Some "machine".

She just happened to be a terrible candidate.  The Machine only gets you so far

Should have run Bill. 

[Valmy]

Stupid 22nd amendment.

[Martinus]

Occam's razor suggests that a candidate that wins in a democratic election wins because he is more popular among the electorate.

I think Donald Trump's victory shows that clearly.

Does it?  Run those numbers again, bud.

What the hell are you talking about?

[Ideologue]

...Do you, commentator on America, not actually know how our dumbassed electoral system works?

Or is it--and we all know this is the likeliest answer--you've convinced yourself you're some kind of "centrist" who takes shots at people to your left and right, and you know exactly what I'm talking about: namely, that the greater number of votes cast for Clinton versus Trump, meaning that Trump's victory doesn't show anything about his popularity, except he was (marginally) more popular in a few particular states.

Obviously, I don't like mentioning this all the time, but it's important to remember that he won by a peculiarity of our system.  He has no mandate.

[Martinus]

Are you making a reference to Hillary winning the popular vote?

If so, this is totally bogus. The rules were clear. Trump played by these rules - and to these rules - to get the most electoral votes. That is why he campaigned in the battleground states. If the election was decided by the popular vote, both he and Hillary would focus on the most populous states. Only an idiot doesn't see that.

[Admiral Yi]

Perhaps you should read the post Ide was responding to.