What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Tamas]

I'm not sure I agree that they're hoping the clock goes back with a sane leader, though maybe aspects of thinking it will buy them time so things are less critical than they are.
I do see signs Europe recognises the reality and is changing.... though slowly. Very slowly.

Well the only "valid" reason not to act faster is expecting things to return to the old normal.

[The Minsky Moment]

Even if a Democrat does return Trump has clearly demonstrated a large minority of Americans are their bitter enemies and will return their foes to power over and over again.

I don't think that's true of a large minority; the vast majority of Americans couldn't care much about Europe either way.

What has happened is that the fringe identitarian blood-and-soil neo-fascists managed to secure a foothold in key positions in Trump administration and this is their play to link up with their ideological allies across the Atlantic.

The other piece is that the Russians have been trying to insinuate their dupes and proxies into Trump's counsels since 2016 (recall the bizarre Carter Page affair).  They mostly failed then but have wildly succeeded now, with Useful Idiot #1 heading the national security team and the VP fully on side.

[Razgovory]

European leaders are weak willed, like most of their populations. Combined with an atmosphere of oikophobia and subsequent lack of belief in the superiority of our cultures and societies...
Why would they bother defending? They've been beaten already.

Is that what is causing the housing crisis?  People are scared of houses?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

European leaders are weak willed, like most of their populations. Combined with an atmosphere of oikophobia and subsequent lack of belief in the superiority of our cultures and societies...
Why would they bother defending? They've been beaten already.

Is that what is causing the housing crisis?  People are scared of houses?

Afraid/ashamed of the self, the indigenous, the own culture and civilisational achievements.
which you very well know.

[grumbler]

European leaders are weak willed, like most of their populations. Combined with an atmosphere of oikophobia and subsequent lack of belief in the superiority of our cultures and societies...
Why would they bother defending? They've been beaten already.

Is that what is causing the housing crisis?  People are scared of houses?

Afraid/ashamed of the self, the indigenous, the own culture and civilisational achievements.
which you very well know.

Using woke terminology does not help to get your point across.

[crazy canuck]

I fear the European leaders are convincing themselves that all they need to do is survive 4 years to have a Democrat in the White House again, resetting time to like 2014. Ain't gonna happen.

Your fear is not consistent with anything I've been reading regarding how European leaders are reacting.

[Grey Fox]

I fear the European leaders are convincing themselves that all they need to do is survive 4 years to have a Democrat in the White House again, resetting time to like 2014. Ain't gonna happen.

Show strength to Trump he might get wet enough between his legs like with Putin to start showing respect.

That's so stupid. Even if a Democrat does return Trump has clearly demonstrated a large minority of Americans are their bitter enemies and will return their foes to power over and over again.

European leaders are weak willed, like most of their populations. Combined with an atmosphere of oikophobia and subsequent lack of belief in the superiority of our cultures and societies...
Why would they bother defending? They've been beaten already.

Interesting take. I blame capitalism.

[Tamas]

I fear the European leaders are convincing themselves that all they need to do is survive 4 years to have a Democrat in the White House again, resetting time to like 2014. Ain't gonna happen.

Your fear is not consistent with anything I've been reading regarding how European leaders are reacting.

All is good then.