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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Syt

Quote from: Savonarola on December 10, 2025, 04:35:57 PMYet another casualty in the War on Woke:

Rubio orders return to Times New Roman font over 'wasteful' Calibri

Good night, sweet Calibri,
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.


Comic Sans MS might be more appropriate for this administration.


Seems familiar.

QuoteThe Fraktur typefaces remained in use in Nazi Germany, when they were initially represented as true German script; official Nazi documents and letterheads employed the font, and the cover of Hitler's Mein Kampf used a hand-drawn version of it.[6] However, more modernized fonts of the Gebrochene Grotesk [de] type such as Tannenberg were in fact the most popular typefaces in Nazi Germany, especially for running text as opposed to decorative uses such as in titles. These fonts were designed in the early 20th century, mainly the 1930s, as grotesque versions of blackletter typefaces. The Nazis heavily used these fonts themselves, although the shift remained controversial; in fact, the press was at times scolded for its frequent use of "Roman characters" under "Jewish influence" and German émigrés were urged to use only "German script".[7][8]

On 3 January 1941, the Nazi Party ended this controversy by switching to international scripts such as Antiqua. Martin Bormann issued a circular (the "normal type decree") to all public offices which declared Fraktur (and its corollary, the Sütterlin-based handwriting) to be Judenlettern (Jewish letters) and prohibited their further use.[9] German historian Albert Kapr has speculated that the regime viewed Fraktur as inhibiting communication in the occupied territories during World War II.[10]
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Syt

Quote from: Jacob on December 10, 2025, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: Tamas on December 10, 2025, 04:25:57 PMStop right now please, unless Maduro coughs up the protection money soon, the war will start. I want to discuss that not have the 145th Israel debate

You think the Trump admin is going to wag the dog with a war in Venezuela to distract from the shitty economy?

Think of all the beautiful wartime powers he could invoke!
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Jacob

I don't have any insight into whether a quick invasion of a Latin American country is part of the current US administration's roadmap. It would be on brand, I suppose.

I mean, I do think Trump is a moral coward who is unwilling to make the kind decisions and take responsibility for the consequences that starting a war requires from a leader. He's a bully, not a fighter. But he might be talked into it, especially as senility sets in.

For sake of argument, let's say the current US administration decides it does want one of its traditional Latin American regime change wars - how will it play in the US? Will Trump be able to rally patriotic fervour?

Richard Hakluyt

In more cheery news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly592lzp0no

It's going to be very hard to fix the mid-terms with this level of swing against the Republicans.

Crazy_Ivan80

Still a year out iirc, not sure they won't cook up something by then

Josquius

Quote from: Razgovory on December 10, 2025, 07:56:18 PMIs that the position of the Greens or Your Party?  "We support you but..."

I see what you're doing there.
You know this is the way good support is meant to work right?
Not just blind cheerleading but trying to steer those you support away from doing stupid and terrible things?

More on the fake question, no idea what Your Party say, the Greens are on that wavelength however as are most mainstream parties in Europe.
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garbon

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 03:59:15 AMStill a year out iirc, not sure they won't cook up something by then

Possibly though at the moment they seem to be bizarrely walking around like chickens with their heads cut off. I thought that was the Democrat speciality. -_-
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Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 02:11:47 AMIn more cheery news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly592lzp0no

It's going to be very hard to fix the mid-terms with this level of swing against the Republicans.



I'd feel a lot better about this if we hadn't already seen the exact trend of Dem victories in 2017-2019.
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mongers

Watching Norma Percy's excellent 'Watergate' series, at the time it looked like a bit thing to a 9 year old me, now, with this president it just seems quaint.
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Savonarola

Quote from: Syt on Today at 12:44:23 AM
Quote from: Savonarola on December 10, 2025, 04:35:57 PMYet another casualty in the War on Woke:

Rubio orders return to Times New Roman font over 'wasteful' Calibri

Good night, sweet Calibri,
And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.


Comic Sans MS might be more appropriate for this administration.


Seems familiar.

QuoteThe Fraktur typefaces remained in use in Nazi Germany, when they were initially represented as true German script; official Nazi documents and letterheads employed the font, and the cover of Hitler's Mein Kampf used a hand-drawn version of it.[6] However, more modernized fonts of the Gebrochene Grotesk [de] type such as Tannenberg were in fact the most popular typefaces in Nazi Germany, especially for running text as opposed to decorative uses such as in titles. These fonts were designed in the early 20th century, mainly the 1930s, as grotesque versions of blackletter typefaces. The Nazis heavily used these fonts themselves, although the shift remained controversial; in fact, the press was at times scolded for its frequent use of "Roman characters" under "Jewish influence" and German émigrés were urged to use only "German script".[7][8]

On 3 January 1941, the Nazi Party ended this controversy by switching to international scripts such as Antiqua. Martin Bormann issued a circular (the "normal type decree") to all public offices which declared Fraktur (and its corollary, the Sütterlin-based handwriting) to be Judenlettern (Jewish letters) and prohibited their further use.[9] German historian Albert Kapr has speculated that the regime viewed Fraktur as inhibiting communication in the occupied territories during World War II.[10]

Heh, that one I didn't know, but I know that font can be surprisingly political.  The script of late antiquity, Uncial, was developed because church leaders thought the standard Roman script looked too pagan.  The handwriting that the American posters learned, Palmer Script, was developed because Austin Palmer thought the standard American script, Spencerian, looked too feminine.
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The Minsky Moment

Marco Rubio, the walking and breathing embodiment of the Peter Principle, has finally found a task that perfectly fits his modest skill set. Some may question Rubio's enthusiastic participation in the war on "DEI" - which seems to be inexplicably sprouting additional letters ("DEIA?") in fierce competition with the LGBTQetc. community - given that he is the administration's most prominent diversity hire in the senior levels of the cabinet, filling out the key demographics of "Hispanic" and "Not Insane". But such nagging inconsistencies take back seat to practicality.  The "war on woke" requires 3 key elements: Stalinesque repetition of slogans, finding the "bad" words in various texts, and figuring out what the last guy did so you can do the opposite. Rubio's mastery of the middle school level academic skills required for this effort is for the most part unquestioned.  He's the right man for the job and as long as he is doing it, we can hope against hope that some qualified person in the State Department is doing the actual work of Secretary.
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Josquius

It's pretty clear fuck the youngism with the fonts.
Serif fonts are easier to read on paper.
Sans serifs fonts are easier to read on screens.
This is typography 101.

Yet another area where maga are letting some pathetic culture war nonsense that means nothing to anyone else reduce the efficiency of government.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Josquius on Today at 05:38:11 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 10, 2025, 07:56:18 PMIs that the position of the Greens or Your Party?  "We support you but..."

I see what you're doing there.
You know this is the way good support is meant to work right?
Not just blind cheerleading but trying to steer those you support away from doing stupid and terrible things?

More on the fake question, no idea what Your Party say, the Greens are on that wavelength however as are most mainstream parties in Europe.

Pulling the old Trump tactic.  "Fake question!"
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OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 01:18:48 AMI don't have any insight into whether a quick invasion of a Latin American country is part of the current US administration's roadmap. It would be on brand, I suppose.

I mean, I do think Trump is a moral coward who is unwilling to make the kind decisions and take responsibility for the consequences that starting a war requires from a leader. He's a bully, not a fighter. But he might be talked into it, especially as senility sets in.

For sake of argument, let's say the current US administration decides it does want one of its traditional Latin American regime change wars - how will it play in the US? Will Trump be able to rally patriotic fervour?

Trump won't invade Venezuela, he has had a couple of consistent political positions since the 1980s:

1. Hatred of international trade, as a real estate investor he has never understood it and intrinsically thinks trade is just a way for America to lose money
2. Obsession with the concept that alliances are a form of being taken advantage of by the other country
3. Dislike of deploying the U.S. military overseas

Trump enjoys the uses of the military which mirror how he engages with the world--performative, off the cuff, Tweet format thinking and acting. This will look like drone / bombing strikes and possibly up to and including small special forces raids and naval incursions into Venezuelan waters. It will never look like the massive build up and invasion of Iraq in 2003.

If this sort of harassment fails to destabilize Maduro's regime to the point of him fleeing or losing support of the military, Trump will just pretend all of this never happened and move on to something else.

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Josquius on Today at 11:05:51 AMIt's pretty clear fuck the youngism with the fonts.
Serif fonts are easier to read on paper.
Sans serifs fonts are easier to read on screens.
This is typography 101.

Yet another area where maga are letting some pathetic culture war nonsense that means nothing to anyone else reduce the efficiency of government.

Serif fonts are superior on computers because they allow you to distinguish between I and l, and 0 and O.
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