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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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crazy canuck

That might've been part of it, but I think the bigger reason was that at the time they gave up their nuclear weapons. I'm not sure anybody poor saw a future where the United States wouldn't ensure their safety. The United States was the superpower.  There was not much downside risk at the time for just playing along and doing what everybody wanted Ukraine to do.
Awarded 17 Zoupa points

In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

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Definitely not, and Bill Clinton commented on that after Putin's initial moves towards Ukraine.  At the time it seemed like Ukraine was giving up a net burden for assurances that would mostly be a formality.  The calculus is obviously different in hindsight.

Of course, Lord Goldfish of Mar-a-Lago doesn't give a shit about any of this.  He just cares about what's in it for him.

crazy canuck

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Tonitrus

Quote from: HVC on October 24, 2025, 02:43:45 AMTechnically it for Doug Ford's government, so Ontario,  not Canada. Wasn't fake as far as I know, just Reagan quote about tariffs.

The Dems should follow suit and flood the airwaves with contrarian-to-Trump Reagan quotes.  His remarks about the Voting Rights act would be relevant nowadays too.

The Minsky Moment

Reagan Foundation says it is "considering its legal options".

Let me simplify the process for you.   You don't have any.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Leaked picture from a Reagan Foundation legal strategery meeting:


crazy canuck

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Zanza

Just saw a rendering of Trump's ballroom. They will have to rename 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue from "The White House" to "The Ballroom" when it's finished. It will be massive. Looks a bit like the Walhalla in Bavaria.  :lol:

HVC

Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Tamas on October 24, 2025, 02:47:00 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 23, 2025, 09:08:16 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on October 23, 2025, 08:30:43 PMReality bites.

Sometimes it does not bite as much as you expected it to.

The thing is, because of the Budapest Memorandum (guaranteeing Ukraine's borders), the UK, the USA etc. should by now be at war with Russia. I understand why they are not in war with Russia, but they did break their treaty obligations almost as much as Russia did.

What do these two statements have to do with each other?

Tamas

What should they have to do with each other?

Admiral Yi


grumbler

Quote from: Tamas on October 24, 2025, 04:57:06 PMWhat should they have to do with each other?

You are the one that quoted Yi and responded, so it's likelier that you know what (if anything) you meant by doing so.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Tamas

Quote from: grumbler on October 24, 2025, 05:15:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on October 24, 2025, 04:57:06 PMWhat should they have to do with each other?

You are the one that quoted Yi and responded, so it's likelier that you know what (if anything) you meant by doing so.

You would think so, wouldn't you.

Valmy

Is it some kind of shocking new idea that Ronald Reagan was against tariffs?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."