What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Josquius]

Your claim was these were the things that upset MAGA so much. When clearly they don't as they pursue the policies you would take if you wanted to make these things worse.

I haven't mentioned MAGA.  Portland is a Democratic town.  Democrats decide the road policies in Portland and they decide the homeless policies in Portland. 

MAGA are sending the army in because apparently those things upset them.
Things their policies otherwise support.

[Admiral Yi]

Things their policies otherwise support.

Their policies don't support these things in Portland in particular.

[Razgovory]

From my experience MAGA really hates the homeless, they are not keen on policies of blue cities that cater to the homeless.  

[Grey Fox]

It's amazing the different reality these people seem to live in.
From all I've heard Portland is one of the better cities in the US.

It is. But from the propaganda of MAGAland, Portland is basically a warzone. And so are most American cities.

It is truly insane how deploying American troops against Americans is now considered normal in the Trump regime.

Quebec journalists that are affected to covering the US government say that the soldiers are basically doing weapon less patrol around a few blocks close to the Capitol. As usual, Trump and the Maga movement are incapable of follow through.

[Josquius]

Things their policies otherwise support.

Their policies don't support these things in Portland in particular.

And?
If I say I'm a vegetarian and you catch me eating a steak does it really matter my vegetarianism wasn't aimed at steak in particular?

They clearly don't give a shit about the homeless and hollowing out communities.
That Portland in particular is where they've chosen to be hypocrites is neither here nor there.

[DGuller]

From my experience MAGA really hates the homeless, they are not keen on policies of blue cities that cater to the homeless. 

MAGA is very good about tapping into fears that span political lines, and the ones you're not supposed to talk about.  In my experience fear of homeless is a bipartisan issue, even if a lot of people on the left publicly recite the platitudes about "unhoused" and cost of living.  Privately everyone is scared when they're harassed by an apparently deranged and possibly drugged out person, and privately everyone thinks they have a right to not be scared.

[Josquius]

Sure. The difference is whether you're in favour of actually trying to solve the problem with housing, drug abuse programmes, etc...
Or you're just upset they're on your street and would rather they shuffle off somewhere else. Not actually solving anything.

Finland is the gold standard on this.

[The Brain]

If the West Coast hadn't been famously right-wing this problem wouldn't exist.

[Savonarola]

Your claim was these were the things that upset MAGA so much. When clearly they don't as they pursue the policies you would take if you wanted to make these things worse.

I haven't mentioned MAGA.  Portland is a Democratic town.  Democrats decide the road policies in Portland and they decide the homeless policies in Portland. 

MAGA are sending the army in because apparently those things upset them.
Things their policies otherwise support.

The stated reason for Trump deploying troops to Portland is to protect ICE facilities from domestic terrorists.  I think this is a bogus reason, and his actual purpose is to intimidate anti-ICE protestors and to provoke a riot.  I don't think this is related to homelessness at all.

[Admiral Yi]

And?
If I say I'm a vegetarian and you catch me eating a steak does it really matter my vegetarianism wasn't aimed at steak in particular?

They clearly don't give a shit about the homeless and hollowing out communities.
That Portland in particular is where they've chosen to be hypocrites is neither here nor there.

I'm baffled by the steak.

I think many of them do give a shit about the homeless, but not in the sense golly let's build them a nice place to sleep and buy them some new clothes but in the sense of someone make them stop shitting on my lawn and scaring my kids in the park.

It's perfectly plausible that the homeless friendly policies that many West Coast cities are accused of practicing have the effect of increasing the homeless population.  That's the indictment from the right.

[Tamas]

I've seen claims that homelessness is very high and big name businesses are leaving downtown.

Send in the Marines!

[The Minsky Moment]

No offense to Portland but I just don't think it's big enough to make people forget about the Epstein files, even if they do send National Guard there.  It's a little above the great Tylenol reveal as a distraction and slightly below randomly murdering Venezuelans in boats. DJT will just have to try something else.

[Sheilbh]

The back of the van was pointing at him.  That's where they put the detainees.

If the left goes full conspiracy theory that's one of its solid advantages pissed away.

I think this is starting to happen. I think Nate Silver was interesting on the Kimmel firing on exactly this point.

[Valmy]

I think many of them do give a shit about the homeless, but not in the sense golly let's build them a nice place to sleep and buy them some new clothes but in the sense of someone make them stop shitting on my lawn and scaring my kids in the park.

It's perfectly plausible that the homeless friendly policies that many West Coast cities are accused of practicing have the effect of increasing the homeless population.  That's the indictment from the right.

The economic and polical polices of the last 40-50 years caused the enormous growth in the homeless population, well beyond the ability of some city government to seriously impact. The mayor of Portland doesn't have the levers to manage the national economy. I am not saying the mayor cannot do anything that might impact homelessness one way or the other, sure the city government could make this problem better or worse by degrees in their local area...but the problem is a national one.

Homeless people are citizens with rights so it is also hard to just throw them all in prison or whatever.

But ultimately the result of our economic and political policies that put all these people on the streets will ultimately just be to outlaw poverty. Class warfare. Not look at ourselves and think about how we got here. But to be fair, for a city government class warfare is probably the best it can do.

[Admiral Yi]

What economic and political policies caused the increase in homelessness?

IMO the biggest driver of homelessness was the ending of involuntary commitment.