What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Gups]

As I have repeated several times: de Gaulle was correct.

You cannot go wrong just writing this down and re-reading it every day.

I've just finished a long biog of de Gaulle and he was amazingly prescient on geopolitics

[Norgy]

As I have repeated several times: de Gaulle was correct. The United States will eventually abandon Europe.

60+ years is quite bit of time for a prediction to play out.  A lot of people could look pretty smart if they got that much of a cushion on their predictions. 

With de Gaulle, who basically made the Croix de Feu political platform his own, everything should be taken with a pinch of salt and a solid few pieces of garlic.
While the fifth republic may last as long as the third, de Gaulle as a symbol of anything but someone who gladly had American forces liberate his country and then entered Paris saying "Hey we did this". I only credit him as good at avoiding assassins.

He was an authoritarian. Plain and simple.

[Valmy]

but someone who gladly had American forces liberate his country

I don't know if it was really all that "gladly" he didn't have just a great relationship with the United States, especially after we went all in trying to work with Vichy and trying to find Vichy guys who we could use to lead France. I mean are you saying de Gaulle was some kind of raging authoritarian with we in the United States wanted to work with Admiral Darlan? That was our big democratic alternative?

Besides if de Gaulle could have gotten a French Army to participate in D-Day he most certainly would. As it was the French did participate in Operation Dragoon. French forces did participate in the liberation of France and they then drafted a fresh army and helped the allies for the remainder of the war saving the lives of many of their allies who otherwise may have had to fight.

But he did go all in on an Allied Victory in June of 1940 and he did win that bet. So I can certainly understand why he took credit in some ways.

As far as being an authoritarian, sure he wanted a strong Presidency. I do not deny he thought was a strong executive kind of guy.

But he did retire from politics and just kind of sit around for a decade. There is no way he would have known for sure that the 4th Republic would collapse spectacularly so quickly. He could have made himself a dictator in 1945 probably...but he didn't.

Also the Presidency of the Fifth Republic is not nearly as authoritarian of an office without de Gaulle holding it. So he did create a non-authoritarian regime.

But even if he was some kind of raging authoritarian that doesn't mean he couldn't have correct opinions on some things.

[viper37]

He was an authoritarian. Plain and simple.

Yet, he put an end to the war in Algeria and there was a plot to assassinate him for this. He also proceeded to grant autonomy to the other French colonies of the time.

The 4th Republic was unstable, Pieds-Noirs and military officers had other ideas in mind that democracy, and yo wanted him to act like President Obama.  That turned out very well in the end.

I believe instead he was the man France needed at the time. And France could use another DeGaulle in its current political climate, to settle things down, clear Russia influence from the left and right and stabilize the country.

[Sheilbh]

Predictably, I love de Gaulle

Objectively, it was a coup and he was an authoritarian....But....

[viper37]

Interesting.  I wonder how that will go.

[Norgy]

He was an authoritarian. Plain and simple.

Yet, he put an end to the war in Algeria and there was a plot to assassinate him for this. He also proceeded to grant autonomy to the other French colonies of the time.

The 4th Republic was unstable, Pieds-Noirs and military officers had other ideas in mind that democracy, and yo wanted him to act like President Obama.  That turned out very well in the end.

I believe instead he was the man France needed at the time. And France could use another DeGaulle in its current political climate, to settle things down, clear Russia influence from the left and right and stabilize the country.

I am fully aware of this. And ending the war in Algeria is a bit like Nixon opening up towards the PRC. It could never have been done by a leftist.
Everyone would have screamed bloody murder.

Just because the OAS were worse, doesn't make de Gaulle superb.

As to Valmy's question, Darlan or de Gaulle, de Gaulle was already in Britain and had held his rousing speeches declaring that the war was far from over. I will credit him with a will to fight, and he did that from World War One via the Red Invasion of Poland and during the 1940 campaign. I can hardly fault him for French tank brigades not having radios.

That aside, I still think he was a mixed blessing for post-war Europe. Denying Britain, Denmark and Norway entry into the EEC is just one thing that springs to mind.

But the fact that he was adopting almost all of the Croix de Feu's political platform still makes him an authoritarian leader in my view. Feel free to disagree.

[Norgy]

So.
Let me get this straight. Guilfoyle, Junior's former/current fiancee is appointed ambassador to Greece?
Who the fuck are you going to send to Norway? Hulk Hogan? Skeletor? Hannibal Lecter? Gaetz? A piece of lefse and a cod?

I repeat this, and will repeat it for the next four years, someone needs to change the channels at times for Trump.

We'd be happy with Donald Duck as ambassador here.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Not sure Donald duck would stoop that low

[Norgy]

I'd settle for Calvin & Hobbes.

[Josquius]

Steven Van Zandt will be the ambassador to Norway

[Norgy]

Steven Van Zandt will be the ambassador to Norway

Don't think the other Donald, the non-duck one, has heard the E-Street Band ever.

[viper37]

Trump Backtracks On Campaign Pledge To Bring Down Grocery Prices

I'm shocked, shocked (that it came so soon).

[The Minsky Moment]

Who the fuck are you going to send to Norway? Hulk Hogan? Skeletor? Hannibal Lecter? Gaetz? A piece of lefse and a cod? 

Hogan won't go to any climate where it is uncomfortable to remove his shirt.
Skeletor is very sensitive about using that name, please be polite.  He prefers to use the name "Stephen Miller" now
Hannibal Lecter is being kept in reserve to keep an eye on Vance just in case.  No loose ends like Pence last time.
Gaetz is going to the EEOC.
No food items will get ambassadorships unless served on a McDonalds or KFC menu.  The Japan franchises don't count.

[viper37]

Trump Advisers Seek to Shrink or Eliminate Bank Regulators

Looks to be fun ride for the next four years in the US.

Hopefully, it doesn't spill into Canada and Europe again by the next crash.