What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Maladict]

I know the US mirrored itself on the Roman Republic, but you didn't need to go as far back as cosplaying the sack of the Capitoline Hill by the German tribes.

Geese are needed.

[The Brain]

To me it sounds like "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office" isn't applicable here. He is unwilling, but hardly unable the way I read unable here. Isn't the 25th about the president being ill or held captive by terrorists or what have you?

[OttoVonBismarck]

The portion of the 25th where the Vice President + Cabinet remove the President from power has never been used. Unhelpfully its parameters are somewhat vague as are parts of its implementation. So there is no bonafide answer to those questions. But I suspect that much like impeachment, which has the trappings of a "legal process" but is really a "political process" (because the constitution gives total authority over it to political branches that are allowed to make political determinations), my guess is the court interpretations of that portion of the 25th Amendment would basically view it as a political process and would respect the joint decisions made by the political actors.

[garbon]

Really good piece by the ITV reporter:
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1346952339886923786?s=20

Crowds are terrifying.

[The Brain]

Really good piece by the ITV reporter:
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1346952339886923786?s=20

Crowds are terrifying.

Even the Senate Chair was in the crowd at the beginning of the video.

[Syt]

[The Brain]

Trump loves these guys. They are very special.

[Sheilbh]

Apparently the back of the shirt says "Staff".

[Tonitrus]

If questioned, I guarantee he would tell that that is meant to be taken ironically.

[Syt]

If questioned, I guarantee he would tell that that is meant to be taken ironically.

"Nobody can take a joke anymore!"

[The Brain]

Did Hitler know that you can just waltz in and take over the Capitol?

[Solmyr]

Saw a comment on Finnish twitter to the effect that, had any senators or representatives gotten killed, and the boxes with electoral votes seized by rioters before the staff had the presence of mind to carry them away, the US would have no confirmed President right now and Trump could declare state of emergency and rule by decree. So the coup attempt actually came extremely close. Is this a correct assessment?

[Syt]

High brow commentary on German site Die Zeit: "Per Aristotle's 'Poetics' the end to a drama should be both surprising and inevitable. If that is true, then the four years during which Donald Trump was the American president have come to a fitting conclusion."

[Syt]

Saw a comment on Finnish twitter to the effect that, had any senators or representatives gotten killed, and the boxes with electoral votes seized by rioters before the staff had the presence of mind to carry them away, the US would have no confirmed President right now and Trump could declare state of emergency and rule by decree. So the coup attempt actually came extremely close. Is this a correct assessment?

I find that hard to believe, as the electoral college's vote has been published (if not certified by congress) and could likely be repeated if need be.

[garbon]

Saw a comment on Finnish twitter to the effect that, had any senators or representatives gotten killed, and the boxes with electoral votes seized by rioters before the staff had the presence of mind to carry them away, the US would have no confirmed President right now and Trump could declare state of emergency and rule by decree. So the coup attempt actually came extremely close. Is this a correct assessment?

I find that hard to believe, as the electoral college's vote has been published (if not certified by congress) and could likely be repeated if need be.

Indeed.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/jan/07/joe-biden-donald-trump-mike-pence-capitol-congress-us-election-coronavirus-live-updates?page=with:block-5ff6f88b8f08c7a368e6e578#block-5ff6f88b8f08c7a368e6e578

Among the unsung heroes of yesterday's storming of the Washington DC Capitol by a pro-Trump mob were the Senate aides who protected the US election paperwork when the joint session of Congress was breached.

The certificates are both an important and ceremonial part of the process. The certificates are transported to the Congressional chamber in ceremonial leather-lined mahogany boxes, where they are presented to the vice president so that he can announce them to the joint session of the House of Representatives and the Senate.

Each certificate contains the signed votes of the Electoral College who elect the US president. Oregon's Senator Jeff Merkley stated in a tweet that if they hadn't been rescued, they would have been "burned by the mob"

Had the certificates been seized or destroyed, while unprecedented, it wouldn't have been the end of the electoral process – as they are not the only copies.

When states certify their electoral college result, they are required to make six copies. As well as the copy sent to Congress, the state's secretary of state, a local judge and the national archive receive all receive copies, as part of a system designed in the 18th century, rather than for an era when results can be sent electronically.