What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[11B4V]

Politeness is about censoring the tone of a statement.  Political correctness is about censoring the content of a statement.

I'd like to hear the Languish SJWs' take on this "incident":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/she-called-his-elevator-joke-offensive-he-called-her-complaint-frivolous-whos-right/2018/05/03/43ba4084-4ee1-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0561347c17e6

The complainer is from Romania. The context was lost on her. Rather than take her to task, the professor should have simply said, "It was a cultural joke regarding department stores, not a comment specific to women's lingerie. I'm sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable. That was not my intent."

Yes let's surrender to retardism.

[Valmy]

The complainer is from Romania. The context was lost on her. Rather than take her to task, the professor should have simply said, "It was a cultural joke regarding department stores, not a comment specific to women's lingerie. I'm sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable. That was not my intent."

I mean she works in the US and making that kind of complaint is probably not something that goes on much in Romania. She seems pretty Americanized. In any case yes he should have. But he is almost 80 and when you get that old you suffer less shit and have fewer shits to give.

[The Brain]

At any rate, it's not his job to educate her on our cultural norms.  At any rate, he was correct--her complaint is frivolous.

No, he was not correct. He was busted by the disclplinary committee.

OK BB.

[The Brain]

And really, I think this whole bit should be split off into its own thread.

Yes please.

[grumbler]

Politeness is about censoring the tone of a statement.  Political correctness is about censoring the content of a statement.

I'd like to hear the Languish SJWs' take on this "incident":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/she-called-his-elevator-joke-offensive-he-called-her-complaint-frivolous-whos-right/2018/05/03/43ba4084-4ee1-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0561347c17e6

The complainer is from Romania. The context was lost on her. Rather than take her to task, the professor should have simply said, "It was a cultural joke regarding department stores, not a comment specific to women's lingerie. I'm sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable. That was not my intent."

Yes let's surrender to retardism.

[DGuller]

Politeness is about censoring the tone of a statement.  Political correctness is about censoring the content of a statement.

I'd like to hear the Languish SJWs' take on this "incident":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/she-called-his-elevator-joke-offensive-he-called-her-complaint-frivolous-whos-right/2018/05/03/43ba4084-4ee1-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0561347c17e6

The complainer is from Romania. The context was lost on her. Rather than take her to task, the professor should have simply said, "It was a cultural joke regarding department stores, not a comment specific to women's lingerie. I'm sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable. That was not my intent."

As someone who once lived in a country that bordered Romania, I am frankly offended at this shameless promotion of patronizing stereotype of Romanians as people who cannot be expected to understand culture.  We have to be better than that.

[Valmy]

Merithyn is wrong unless that committee that censured him is also full of Romanians. That joke was deemed sexual harassment by Americans.

[dps]

Merithyn is wrong unless that committee that censured him is also full of Romanians. That joke was deemed sexual harassment by Americans.

Oh, a committee signed off on it.  Guess it was sexual harassment then--we know that committees can never be wrong.

[derspiess]

And really, I think this whole bit should be split off into its own thread.

Probably. Not sure why Spicey put it here.

Continuation of the "PC is just being polite" discussion.  But agree it should be in its own thread.

[Razgovory]

And really, I think this whole bit should be split off into its own thread.

Probably. Not sure why Spicey put it here.

Continuation of the "PC is just being polite" discussion.  But agree it should be in its own thread.

Obviously it was a plot by "Cultural Marxists" to impose Islam on America.

[Valmy]

Merithyn is wrong unless that committee that censured him is also full of Romanians. That joke was deemed sexual harassment by Americans.

Oh, a committee signed off on it.  Guess it was sexual harassment then--we know that committees can never be wrong.

Well it is not like there is some kind of objective standard. You sexually harassed somebody if they feel like you sexually harassed them, doubly so when the institutions back them up.

[derspiess]

Well it is not like there is some kind of objective standard. You sexually harassed somebody if they feel like you sexually harassed them,

Not in this case if you invoke the "reasonable person" argument, assuming that's still a thing.  It was in the company-wide sexual harassment training we had to take five years ago.

[derspiess]

Obviously it was a plot by "Cultural Marxists" to impose Islam on America.

[Berkut]

Politeness is about censoring the tone of a statement.  Political correctness is about censoring the content of a statement.

I'd like to hear the Languish SJWs' take on this "incident":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/she-called-his-elevator-joke-offensive-he-called-her-complaint-frivolous-whos-right/2018/05/03/43ba4084-4ee1-11e8-af46-b1d6dc0d9bfe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0561347c17e6

The complainer is from Romania. The context was lost on her. Rather than take her to task, the professor should have simply said, "It was a cultural joke regarding department stores, not a comment specific to women's lingerie. I'm sorry if it made you feel uncomfortable. That was not my intent."

Isn't that exactly what he did though?

Lebow, informed of the complaint, wrote what he said was intended to be a conciliatory response, assuring Sharoni that "I certainly had no desire to insult women or to make you feel uncomfortable" and suggested that Sharoni, born in Romania and raised in Israel, may have "interpreted my remark out of context."

[Valmy]

Well it is not like there is some kind of objective standard. You sexually harassed somebody if they feel like you sexually harassed them,

Not in this case if you invoke the "reasonable person" argument, assuming that's still a thing.  It was in the company-wide sexual harassment training we had to take five years ago.

Obviously common sense and being reasonable is the only defense. But that is also pretty arbitrary. The committee obviously felt like it was reasonable and common sensical to decide against Lebow. And then what can you do? Not much.

This was my main take away from training I get on this subject in the companies I have worked for. Ultimately it comes down to how people feel about the situation. So you better hope you work with very reasonable people.