What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[CountDeMoney]

Guess he caught the evening fake news.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h

President Andrew Jackson, who died 16 years before the Civil War started, saw it coming and was angry. Would never have let it happen!

[Berkut]

Trump has certainly succeeded in normalizing his idiocy.

[DGuller]

I'm having a difficult time understanding what type of "access" is attained by hiring a retired politician.

Showing not-yet-retired politicians that you take care of those who take care of you.

[Eddie Teach]

You might not want to "buy" it, but organizations in Vancouver have paid top dollar for both Clintons to speak at various occasions.  Why?  Because there is some connection with political favours that breaks the time/space continuum or because they pack the house and the organizers easily make a profit after paying the large speaking fee?

How much are they charging for admission?

[Syt]

Speaking of inane Trump quotes, didn't he say recently that (parts of) the constitution is archaic and bad for the country?

[DGuller]

Speaking of inane Trump quotes, didn't he say recently that (parts of) the constitution is archaic and bad for the country?

He's not wrong in general, but I bet there will be some disagreement on details between him and non-authoritarian types.

[Eddie Teach]

Are you afraid of guns?

[CountDeMoney]

"There's a certain amount of hunting for 'what is it that Trump has done that's dumb?'" said Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, who taught history as a college professor in Georgia and has written multiple historical novels. "Trump's not a student of history. Trump's an extraordinarily successful, entrepreneurial personality who learns what he needs to know when he needs to know it. Trump is learning history as he governs."

[viper37]

You might not want to "buy" it, but organizations in Vancouver have paid top dollar for both Clintons to speak at various occasions.  Why?  Because there is some connection with political favours that breaks the time/space continuum or because they pack the house and the organizers easily make a profit after paying the large speaking fee?

How much are they charging for admission?

for Clinton, it was around 1000$ a ticket.

[FunkMonk]

So far Historian Donald is one of my favorite Donald forms, alongside Taco Bowl Donald.

[Berkut]

I find it fascinating the the need to refuse the data that doesn't align with conclusions has these kinds of results.

Nominal progressives would rather argue that the influence of money on politicians really isn't corrupting, rather than admit that their particular chosen politician, who just got beat by the worst candidate ever, might be part of that corruption.

But NONE of you guys would for a moment argue that a Republican who took $150 million dollars from corporate America, was not corrupted by doing so, or argue that in general the idea that politicians make tens of millions of dollars from corporate America before, during, and after their careers, are corrupted by that - that that money is given to them strictly for services rendered outside of their roles as politicians.

I am waiting for Seedy to yell at me that damnit, corporations are people too, and they have the RIGHT to express their speech with money just like everyone else!

I do recall all these same Hillary defenders insisting that Eric Cantor surely got the job after leaving Congress with an investment bank because he is so damn good at investment banking, and that there was no evidence at all that there was any corruption involved.

[garbon]

Have fun with those strawmen.

[Berkut]

Have fun with those strawmen.

Of course.

Cognitive dissonance - its not just for the Tea Party!

[garbon]

Have fun with those strawmen.

Of course.

Cognitive dissonance - its not just for the Tea Party!

But you are just making it up. I don't think anyone has asked for special pleading for Hillary Clinton - both Jake and I noted that we didn't think there was anything unique there. (Aside actually you're the one pushing that the Clintons are so uniquely corrupt.)

Nor has anyone advanced the notion that they'd definitely believe the money maker was corrupt though if instead of Clinton it was a generic Republican we're talking about. As I already said, I don't think the mere fact of making money by its lonesome is evidence enough to be corruption (or even all that worrisome). My opinion doesn't really change there if they've got a D, R or otherwise next to their name.

[DGuller]

Are you afraid of guns?

The constitution is archaic in dangerous ways, for reasons much more important than guns.  The biggest one is that it is so inflexible that in time in can become completely irrelevant and be replaced by creative interpretations.