What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[CountDeMoney]

After all, I'm more interested in getting a decent president. Say I have a vested interest.

I'll take uninspiring competence over inspired incompetence any day.

[HVC]

It is always the cunt's fault. She got the most votes? Should have been more likeable.

she was a bad candidate. Whatever you want to believe was the reason she lost is, the fact that she lost makes her a bad candidate. Her job was to win. She failed in a historical way because of who she lost to.

She was a fine candidate, just one in which an entire media industry was specifically designed to destroy her over the course of an entire generation. 

Admittedly I was seeing it as an observer from outside the country, but wasn't her election coverage pretty favourable (outside of fox and the like, which would be the same for any other candidate)? Where the media fucked up was giving joe joe the orange clown boy too much media time because they thought he a was a joke.

although I agree that before the election she got bad press, but then again she did stuff that was bad press worthy.

[FunkMonk]

I blame Hillary for running a terrible campaign, and while in a normal election she would have been an ok candidate, in real life Election 2016, she was, uh, ill-suited.

Of course, I also blame Donald for running, the Republicans for caving into him, the media for loving him, and the American people for letting his shucksterism fool them so easily.

I am pretty pessimistic of our chances at this point. 

[Valmy]

We are all guilty. This Presidency is an indictment of our entire country. The future looks dark.

Not to be overly dramatic or anything

[CountDeMoney]

No, it wasn't all that favorable.  When it's "all emails, all Benghazi, all the time" it's not that favorable.

People bitch about the "lamestream" media tilting left, but nobody ever goes under the microscope as hard or as long as the Clintons.

Even the NYT, and their penchant for throwing out the lastest erroneous leaks about here, has been reflective about it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/04/24/new-york-times-sheds-new-light-on-its-own-controversial-clinton-coverage/?utm_term=.5265de613ff7

[CountDeMoney]

We are all guilty. This Presidency is an indictment of our entire country. The future looks dark.

Not to be overly dramatic or anything

Agreed. 
Not too dramatic, either.  I told you guys first we'll all be dead.  This will not end well.

[HVC]

you'll be fine. 8 years of trump will just fly by. I mean in like a car accident sort of way, but then you'll rebuild. it's the other republicans and the obstructionist culture they've been building for themselves that you have to worry about.

[DontSayBanana]

Admittedly I was seeing it as an observer from outside the country, but wasn't her election coverage pretty favourable (outside of fox and the like, which would be the same for any other candidate)? Where the media fucked up was giving joe joe the orange clown boy too much media time because they thought he a was a joke.

although I agree that before the election she got bad press, but then again she did stuff that was bad press worthy.

Not even close.  The Sanders/Stein wing was doing the political equivalent of the stadium loudspeaker on the Blues Brothers' car all the way through.  Donald Trump won 2016 because the Republicans also imploded, but not as badly as the Democrats.

[Berkut]

It is always the cunt's fault. She got the most votes? Should have been more likeable.

she was a bad candidate. Whatever you want to believe was the reason she lost is, the fact that she lost makes her a bad candidate. Her job was to win. She failed in a historical way because of who she lost to.

She was a fine candidate, just one in which an entire media industry was specifically designed to destroy her over the course of an entire generation. 

No, there was plenty bad about the Clintons that had nothing to do with the way they were portrayed by the media.

Clinton is a text book example of exactly what is wrong in American politics today, on the progressive side.

[Valmy]

No Bernie Sanders is an example of everything wrong with American Politics today on the Progressive side.

The Clintons were about as moderate as they come.

[Berkut]

I blame Hillary for running a terrible campaign, and while in a normal election she would have been an ok candidate, in real life Election 2016, she was, uh, ill-suited.

I blame the Clintons and the DNC in general for annointing her POTUS 2017 years ago and letting the Clintons pretty much run the DNC as their private party, and not allow any other candidates to come forward.

I think after they got blindsided by Obama, they spent the next several years locking down their control of the party to make sure it didn't happen again, and it mostly worked.

The Republicans put up several semi-reasonable (by batshit fucked up RNC standards, granted) candidates. And the Not A Republican At All won, basically because nobody could get behind a single mainstream candidate.

The DNC put up one terrible candidate to anyone not a hardcore old school Dem, and the non-Dem actually made her put up a fight for the nomination. That should tell you something.

[Berkut]

No Bernie Sanders is an example of everything wrong with American Politics today on the Progressive side.

The Clintons were about as moderate as they come.

What is wrong with them has nothing to do with how moderate they are though.

[HVC]

No Bernie Sanders is an example of everything wrong with American Politics today on the Progressive side.

The Clintons were about as moderate as they come.

Aren't the Clintons big money "establishment" libs? Unless goldman sachs is now a progressive firm or something.

And Bernie is the most popular politician you guys have down there. Politics is weird.

[Valmy]

Who exactly did you want to come forward? Her VP selection hardly moved the needle at all and I thought he was one of the best candidates around.

[Valmy]

No Bernie Sanders is an example of everything wrong with American Politics today on the Progressive side.

The Clintons were about as moderate as they come.

Aren't the Clintons big money "establishment" libs? Unless goldman sachs is now a progressive firm or something.

And Bernie is the most popular politician you guys have down there. Politics is weird.

Exactly. They are not progressive at all really. Which was what I was saying.

The Republicans put up several semi-reasonable (by batshit fucked up RNC standards, granted) candidates. And the Not A Republican At All won, basically because nobody could get behind a single mainstream candidate.

All the mainstream candidates were crushed. What election were you watching? Or is Ted Cruz the establishment now?