What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[jimmy olsen]

35 Russians?  That's quite a crowd to walk back to Checkpoint Charlie.

No kidding, what a toothless response.

[11B4V]

35 Russians?  That's quite a crowd to walk back to Checkpoint Charlie.

No kidding, what a toothless response.

What else do you want, B2's coming low in over the horizon.

[Berkut]

I think the only responses that can move Putin, if anything can, is going after those who support him - the oligarchs.

Threaten their money. Freeze their assets wherever we can get to them.

Russia has basically declared a new Cold War on the US and the West. We need to stop acting like if we keep responding to aggression with diplomacy, eventually they will figure out that cooperation is a good idea. They won't, they haven't, and people like Putin never stop on their own - they have to be stopped  by someone else. They will always keep pushing to see how much more they can get, their power depends on it.

[Admiral Yi]

Disagree.  More and more the oligarchs are placeholders.  Hit one and a new face gets slotted in as head of Rosneft or Gazprom. 

[grumbler]

Disagree.  More and more the oligarchs are placeholders.  Hit one and a new face gets slotted in as head of Rosneft or Gazprom.

I think you are right.  Putin makes oligarchs, these days.  They no longer make him.

[dps]

Disagree.  More and more the oligarchs are placeholders.  Hit one and a new face gets slotted in as head of Rosneft or Gazprom. 

Yeah, but Berkut wasn't suggesting targeting individual oligarchs--he was suggesting targeting the financial assets.  Replacing the person in charge of those assets doesn't do Putin any good if the assets themselves have been seized.

The problem is that I'm not sure that enough of those assets to make a difference are situated such that we can seize them.

[CountDeMoney]

35 Russians?  That's quite a crowd to walk back to Checkpoint Charlie.

No kidding, what a toothless response.

What else do you want, B2's coming low in over the horizon.

  OUR EAST GERMAN ASSETS ARE BLOWN

I think what will be even more interesting is how more info comes out on these two "facilities" they're shutting down.

[CountDeMoney]

I think the only responses that can move Putin, if anything can, is going after those who support him - the oligarchs.

Threaten their money. Freeze their assets wherever we can get to them.

Fuck freezing it.  Just make it disappear.  110 people possess 35% of Russian wealth.  That's a lot of zeros and commas that are laying around somewhere.  Just make it disappear.

[jimmy olsen]

I think the only responses that can move Putin, if anything can, is going after those who support him - the oligarchs.

Threaten their money. Freeze their assets wherever we can get to them.

Fuck freezing it.  Just make it disappear.  110 people possess 35% of Russian wealth.  That's a lot of zeros and commas that are laying around somewhere.  Just make it disappear.

A quick google says that is equivalent to 214 billion dollars. Wouldn't erasing all that cause a global financial metldown? And that's not even taking into account Russian retaliation in kind.

Russia has a population of 143.5 million generating total household wealth of £750billion, but £263billion of that is owned by just 110 people. 'Russia has the highest level of wealth inequality in the world, apart from small Caribbean nations with resident billionaires,' said Credit Suisse.

[CountDeMoney]

I didn't say all of it, numbnuts.

[jimmy olsen]

I didn't say all of it, numbnuts.

You certainly implied it.

[CountDeMoney]

Shut up, Meg.  Fuck.

[citizen k]

Funny how after all the decades of the Cold War, WWIII starts because a political party is incapable of self-reflection and is so desperate to deflect the blame for their electoral loss. So sad. 

[11B4V]

Funny how after all the decades of the Cold War, WWIII starts because a political party is incapable of self-reflection and is so desperate to deflect the blame for their electoral loss. So sad. 

That's a joke right.

[Ed Anger]

Pootie Poot is my spirit animal