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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Berkut

Quote from: DGuller on November 18, 2016, 07:06:58 PM
I think most alt-right trolling is not pure trolling, it's a "trial balloon" kind of trolling (maybe there is already a better word for it).  When you "troll" like that, you really say what you believe, but exaggerate it by a small degree so that if you catch any grief, you were obviously just trying to get a rise out of people for shits and giggles.  But don't be fooled, these "trolls" are genuine excrement.

:yes:
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on November 18, 2016, 10:44:48 PM
This guy is a supervillian


Fucking told you.  Never trust someone that never wears a tie, and is always in one of those Bosian-Serb-rape-camp-atrocities-and-I-mean-rape-rape field jackets.



And now we're going to have a Justice Department run by Attorney General Mitchell.




Martinus

Quote from: 11B4V on November 18, 2016, 10:44:48 PM
This guy is a supervillian

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/politics/steve-bannon-donald-trump-hollywood-reporter-interview/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Top+Stories%29

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The ex-Breitbart executive, who serves as Trump's chief strategist for the new administration, told The Hollywood Reporter that "darkness is good."
"Dick Cheney. Darth Vader. Satan. That's power. It only helps us when they (liberals) get it wrong. When they're blind to who we are and what we're doing," he said in an interview published Friday, his first outside of Breitbart since the election.

Ah, the Clinton News Network never fails to report something out of context. :D

But it's a pretty rad quote, gotta give you that.  :lol:

Tamas

Quote from: DGuller on November 18, 2016, 07:06:58 PM
I think most alt-right trolling is not pure trolling, it's a "trial balloon" kind of trolling (maybe there is already a better word for it).  When you "troll" like that, you really say what you believe, but exaggerate it by a small degree so that if you catch any grief, you were obviously just trying to get a rise out of people for shits and giggles.  But don't be fooled, these "trolls" are genuine excrement.

:yes:

Hamilcar

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 18, 2016, 02:08:24 PM
Flynn, Sessions, Pompeo - very clear signal that the surveillance state will be back with a vengeance and electronic privacy on the furthest of backburners.

Something that may be of interest to our international contingent.

The Swiss data security industry is rubbing their hands in glee at the moment.

Hamilcar

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/2016/11/18/9da9c572-ad18-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html

QuoteFor foreign diplomats, Trump hotel is place to be

By Jonathan O'Connell and Mary Jordan November 18 at 8:26 PM
About 100 foreign diplomats, from Brazil to Turkey, gathered at the Trump International Hotel this week to sip Trump-branded champagne, dine on sliders and hear a sales pitch about the U.S. president-elect's newest hotel.

The event for the diplomatic community, held one week after the election, was in the Lincoln Library, a junior ballroom with 16-foot ceilings and velvet drapes that is also available for rent.

Some attendees won raffle prizes — among them overnight stays at other Trump properties around the world — allowing them to become better acquainted with the business holdings of the new commander in chief.


"The place was packed," said Lynn Van Fleit, founder of the nonprofit Diplomacy Matters Institute, which organizes programs for foreign diplomats and government officials. She said much of the discussion among Washington-based diplomats is over "how are we going to build ties with the new administration."

Back when many expected Trump to lose the election, speculation was rife that business would suffer at the hotels, condos and golf courses that bear his name. Now, those venues offer the prospect of something else: a chance to curry favor or access with the next president.

Perhaps nowhere is that possibility more obvious than Trump's newly renovated hotel a few blocks from the White House, on Pennsylvania Avenue. Rooms sold out quickly for the inauguration, many for five-night minimums priced at five times the normal rate, according to the hotel's manager.

To many of the guests at the reception Tuesday, accepting an invitation to tour the $212 million hotel and check out the $20,000-a-night, 6,300-square-foot "town house" suite seemed like a good idea. They spoke admiringly about the renovation and left with a goody bag of chocolates and a brochure. It listed the choices of accommodations and meeting rooms and expounded on the location's "striking prominence" at historical moments such as the Inauguration Day parade.

"Believe me, all the delegations will go there," said one Middle Eastern diplomat who recently toured the hotel and booked an overseas visitor. The diplomat said many stayed away from the hotel before the election for fear of a "Clinton backlash," but that now it's the place to be seen.

In interviews with a dozen diplomats, many of whom declined to be named because they were not authorized to speak about anything related to the next U.S. president, some said spending money at Trump's hotel is an easy, friendly gesture to the new president.

"Why wouldn't I stay at his hotel blocks from the White House, so I can tell the new president, 'I love your new hotel!' Isn't it rude to come to his city and say, 'I am staying at your competitor?' " said one Asian diplomat.

Guests at the Trump hotel have begun parking themselves in the lobby, ordering expensive cocktails, hoping to see one of the Trump family members or the latest Cabinet pick. One foreign official hoped Trump, famous for the personal interest he takes in his businesses, might check the guest logs himself.

But several expressed concern that spending thousands of dollars on a Trump property could look like an attempt to buy access or favors.

"The temptation and the inclination will certainly be there," said Arturo Sarukhan, a former Mexican ambassador to the United States. "Some might think it's the right way to engage, to be able to tell the next president, 'Oh, I stayed at your hotel.' If I were still in government, I would discourage it, among other reasons because it can be questioned and looked at in a very poor light, as though you are trying to buy influence via a hotel bill."

If diplomats, as well as corporate representatives and executives — whom the hotel hosted in a separate room Tuesday — want to spend lavishly at Trump properties, there appears to be no ethics rule to stop it, short of an act of Congress.

The Trumps opened the hotel in the Old Post Office pavilion, a 117-year-old property the company leases from the federal government. Officials at the General Services Administration, the landlord, have consulted the Office of Government Ethics about how to handle such conflicts, but the measures preventing other federal employees from profiting from their positions do not apply to the president.

"Consequently, there is no current legal requirement that would compel the President to relinquish financial interests because of a conflict of interest," an analysis produced last month by the Congressional Research Service at the Library of Congress said.

Foreign leaders and top officials visiting Washington often stay at Blair House or in their ambassador's residence, but many are accompanied by entourages who take over entire floors of hotels. The 180-country-strong diplomatic community in the capital spends millions of dollars every year on hotels, including for huge events marking their countries' independence days.

Foreign business is so critical to Washington hotels that the Trumps, like others, hired a "director of diplomatic sales," luring the manager from a top competitor, the Four Seasons in Georgetown.

The hotel's general manager, Mickael Damelincourt, said in an interview that business had been picking up before the election and that interest has surged for the inauguration. Hotels throughout the city, as well as Airbnb users, are charging higher rates because of increased demand.

"I got 50 calls in the last day, from some very important people, and we have no space," Damelincourt said.

He said he didn't think inauguration guests were coming to his hotel in order to curry favor with the president-elect. "I don't think that has an effect on the hotel," he said.

"I think we would be doing amazing business anyway because of our location and because of the quality. Look at the W hotel, they are doing amazing, as well."

Trump has said he will turn over his businesses, including hotels and golf courses around the world, to his children Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric.

"This is a top priority at the Organization and the structure that is ultimately selected will comply with all applicable rules and regulations," including at the Old Post Office, the Trump Organization said.

Several top ethics experts, including former White House counsels, say handing the properties to the Trump children will not go nearly far enough in quashing concerns that Trump could use the presidency to enrich himself or his family.

More than a dozen watchdog organizations penned a letter to Trump on Thursday, urging him to create a true blind trust or liquidate the assets. (Under a blind trust, an independent trustee with no familial ties would manage the properties.)

"Failure to follow this course of action will create conflicts of interest of unprecedented magnitude," groups including Common Cause wrote.

Rep. Katherine M. Clark (D-Mass.) introduced a bill this week that would require presidents to take similar steps.

F. Joseph Warin, a lawyer and expert on the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, said Trump should consider bringing in a third-party administrator.

"It's about perception of conflict of interest," Warin said. "We want our leader laser-focused on fixing the problems of the United States and not diverted on commercial issues."

Banana republic ahoy!

Martinus


Zoupa

Hilarious right?

America delenda est. You had a good run, guys.

Martinus

Where did you guys take the part about Huckabee being offered Israel from? He was on O'Reilly and said this was never mentioned and that he was offered a cabinet position but declined.

celedhring

Quote from: Martinus on November 19, 2016, 07:14:04 AM
Where did you guys take the part about Huckabee being offered Israel from? He was on O'Reilly and said this was never mentioned and that he was offered a cabinet position but declined.

It was reported by some Israel media outlets.

Hamilcar

Quote from: Zoupa on November 19, 2016, 06:52:05 AM
Hilarious right?

America delenda est. You had a good run, guys.

My (perhaps irrational) hope is now that the Trump admin is so grossly inept that it will collapse early like a flan.

mongers

Quote from: Hamilcar on November 19, 2016, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on November 19, 2016, 06:52:05 AM
Hilarious right?

America delenda est. You had a good run, guys.

My (perhaps irrational) hope is now that the Trump admin is so grossly inept that it will collapse early like a flan.

More like a soufflé?
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Hamilcar

Quote from: mongers on November 19, 2016, 08:56:33 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 19, 2016, 08:37:20 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on November 19, 2016, 06:52:05 AM
Hilarious right?

America delenda est. You had a good run, guys.

My (perhaps irrational) hope is now that the Trump admin is so grossly inept that it will collapse early like a flan.

More like a soufflé?

Yes, I appear to have mixed my metaphors there.  :blush:

Hamilcar

Trump is raging on twitter right now about how people were mean to Pence at the Hamilton performance.  :wacko:

Liep

Quote from: Hamilcar on November 19, 2016, 08:59:46 AM
Trump is raging on twitter right now about how people were mean to Pence at the Hamilton performance.  :wacko:

It's insane, and right after complaining about the presidency taking up too much time so he had to settle the Trump U lawsuit. :lol:
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