News:

And we're back!

Main Menu

What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Syt

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/843865267008655360

QuoteThe NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process.

To which Rogers and Comey reacted like this: https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/843892847833042946
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

garbon

Quote from: Syt on March 21, 2017, 04:42:14 AM
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/843865267008655360

QuoteThe NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process.

To which Rogers and Comey reacted like this: https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/843892847833042946

So untethered.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

celedhring

#8162
Weird. What's this supposed to accomplish? Everything that gets carried on board is subjected to tighter screening than luggage, and if they are worried about devices being used to do whatever while the plane is flying, I'm not sure what nefarious thing can be accomplished with a tablet that you couldn't accomplish with a smartphone (which are excluded from this).

Quote
U.S. Limits Devices for Passengers on Foreign Airlines From Eight Countries
By RON NIXON MARCH 21, 2017

Passengers on foreign airlines headed to the United States from 10 airports in eight majority-Muslim countries have been barred from carrying electronic devices larger than a cellphone under a new flight restriction enacted on Tuesday by the Trump administration.

Officials called the directive an attempt to address gaps in foreign airport security, and said it was not based on any specific or credible threat of an imminent attack.

The Department of Homeland Security said the restricted items included laptop computers, tablets, cameras, travel printers and games bigger than a phone. The restrictions would not apply to aircraft crews, officials said in a briefing to reporters on Monday night that outlined the terms of the ban.

The new policy took effect at 3 a.m. E.D.T. on Tuesday, and must be followed within 96 hours by airlines flying to the United States from airports in Amman, Jordan; Cairo; Istanbul; Jeddah and Riyadh in Saudi Arabia; Kuwait City; Casablanca, Morocco; Doha, Qatar; and Dubai and Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates.

It applies only to flights on foreign carriers, and not American-operated airlines. Officials did not say how long the ban would remain in place or if other airports would be added.

Royal Jordanian, the state-run airline of the Hashemite kingdom, said that medical items are exempt from the ban, and that larger electronic items could still be carried in checked baggage. It announced the changes to what it called "our dearest passengers" in a Twitter post Monday afternoon that was later deleted.

In all, officials said an estimated 50 flights each day into the United States would be affected. One of the world's busiest airports, in Abu Dhabi, already requires American-bound passengers to undergo strict screening by United States customs officials before boarding flights. Abu Dhabi is one of 15 airports in the world to employ the Homeland Security preclearance techniques.

During the briefing on Monday night, Homeland Security officials did not cite specific intelligence suggesting that terrorist groups were planning imminent attacks as a reason for the new policy. Rather, they said the change was based on intelligence reports about extremist groups that have an ongoing interest in staging attacks against American aviation targets. The officials briefed reporters on the condition they would not be identified, since the ban was not yet in place.

Separately, an official with the Transportation Security Administration who confirmed the new restriction said not everyone at the agency had been briefed about it as of Monday evening, raising the possibility that it was being rushed out. He noted that there was no mention of intelligence at a national meeting of T.S.A. federal security directors last week that suggested planes coming to the United States had been targeted by terrorist groups.

The T.S.A. has been on heightened alert at several airports, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly. It was not clear if the alert was related to the new restrictions on electronic devices.

The restrictions follow other changes the T.S.A. made in aviation security in recent days.

Two weeks ago, the T.S.A. adopted enhanced pat-down searches for passengers at United States airports, a response to what the agency said were weaknesses in airport screening measures. Under the new rules, passengers will no longer be allowed to choose what type of searches they undergo in security lines.

The agency said the measures, which will be more invasive than current procedures, were needed to improve the ability of screeners to detect explosives or other banned items. In a series of 70 undercover tests of airport security screening procedures, conducted in 2015 by the Homeland Security inspector general's office, auditors were able to get fake weapons and explosives past security screeners 95 percent of the time, according to the still-classified report.

The enhanced pat-down searches will be used on passengers who refuse to go through the full-body screening machine. Passengers who trigger alarms while going through screening will also undergo the enhanced searches. T.S.A. officers can also randomly choose passengers for the more invasive pat-downs.

Travelers will still be able to request a private pat-down screening and ask to be accompanied by a companion of their choice.




Syt

Istanbul? Erdogan will probably call Trump a nazi now. :(
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: celedhring on March 21, 2017, 06:11:44 AM
I'm not sure what nefarious thing can be accomplished with a tablet that you couldn't accomplish with a smartphone (which are excluded from this).

More explosives packed into the casing.

celedhring

#8165
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 21, 2017, 06:31:22 AM
Quote from: celedhring on March 21, 2017, 06:11:44 AM
I'm not sure what nefarious thing can be accomplished with a tablet that you couldn't accomplish with a smartphone (which are excluded from this).

More explosives packed into the casing.

That's why they X-ray them, and make you turn them on?

Although I guess that if they don't trust the checkups at those airports, and by those airlines (you have to go through 2 security screening for US-inbound flights), it's fair enough. But there's a reason why there hasn't been a single air terror attack in US-inbound flights since, like, almost never? (9/11 terrorists used domestic flights for a reason). Measures already in place are extremely tight.

The Larch

Quote from: Syt on March 21, 2017, 04:00:16 AM
Oh, and:



Look good from US side? Will they put nice murals on it or something?

CountDeMoney

Quote from: celedhring on March 21, 2017, 06:41:57 AM
That's why they X-ray them, and make you turn them on?

Although I guess that if they don't trust the checkups at those airports, and by those airlines (you have to go through 2 security screening for US-inbound flights), it's fair enough. But there's a reason why there hasn't been a single air terror attack in US-inbound flights since, like, almost never? (9/11 terrorists used domestic flights for a reason). Measures already in place are extremely tight.

X-rays don't detect explosive material, and you can still mold explosives in larger devices that allow you to use them.

And there hasn't been a single air terror attack since 9/11 because if they tried it, every flight would go down like Flight 93.  Hell, passengers have beaten the shit out of drunks confusing the cockpit door for the bathroom.  Nobody is ever hijacking another plane in the US.

celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on March 21, 2017, 07:05:15 AM
Look good from US side? Will they put nice murals on it or something?

US side:



Mexico side:


garbon

QuoteThe enhanced pat-down searches will be used on passengers who refuse to go through the full-body screening machine. Passengers who trigger alarms while going through screening will also undergo the enhanced searches. T.S.A. officers can also randomly choose passengers for the more invasive pat-downs.

Enhanced pat-downs? Randomly?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 20, 2017, 05:52:24 PM
So does that make it an actual coven, or just a gaggle of whores?

We'd like to think that women in power would somehow be less pro-war, but in the Obama administration at least it appeared that the bellicosity was worst among Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Samantha Power.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on March 21, 2017, 09:08:31 AM
We'd like to think that women in power would somehow be less pro-war

We would?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Eddie Teach

To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?