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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 09, 2016, 01:26:00 AM
I don't see what exactly Trump can do about Iran except rant.  It's not like the rest of the world is going to jump to attention and reimpose sanctions because Trump won an election.  The most he could do is unilaterally impose sanctions, and he would still need Congress to do that.

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The Minsky Moment

The French are back in Iran and hard to see Trump prying them out.  He's not going to get much help from Merkel either.
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Hamilcar

How much can the Dems in the Senate block by filibuster?

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 01:33:28 AM
How much can the Dems in the Senate block by filibuster?

Some until they change the rules to eliminate it.
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CountDeMoney

I'm more concerned about how the Iranians are going to react to the perceived threat from a Trump presidency, than what Trump will actually be able to do on his own in the near term.
The Iranians may very well feel compelled to preemptively bail on the agreement.

Hamilcar

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2016, 01:35:42 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 01:33:28 AM
How much can the Dems in the Senate block by filibuster?

Some until they change the rules to eliminate it.

You think the "nuclear option" is actually on the table?

Jacob

Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2016, 01:35:42 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 01:33:28 AM
How much can the Dems in the Senate block by filibuster?

Some until they change the rules to eliminate it.

You think the "nuclear option" is actually on the table?

It occurs to me that the GOP may leave the filibuster in. That way they can blame the Democrat obstructionism when they tank the economy.

jimmy olsen

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CountDeMoney

QuoteTrump aides are organizing what one Republican close to the campaign calls the First Day Project. "Trump spends several hours signing papers—and erases the Obama Presidency," he said. Stephen Moore, an official campaign adviser who is a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, explained, "We want to identify maybe twenty-five executive orders that Trump could sign literally the first day in office."

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/09/26/president-trumps-first-term

jimmy olsen

So...Newt as Secratary of State and Guliani has AG.  Can't see them lasting long given the rigors of the job.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 09, 2016, 01:59:51 AM
So...Newt as Secratary of State and Guliani has AG.  Can't see them lasting long given the rigors of the job.

The fuck you talking about.  Newt is a machine, and Rudy runs on pure hate.

Syt

Newt and Rudy remind me of angrier, stupider, eviler versions of Dick Cheney.
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DGuller

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Quote from: Jacob on November 09, 2016, 01:44:07 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2016, 01:35:42 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on November 09, 2016, 01:33:28 AM
How much can the Dems in the Senate block by filibuster?

Some until they change the rules to eliminate it.

You think the "nuclear option" is actually on the table?

It occurs to me that the GOP may leave the filibuster in. That way they can blame the Democrat obstructionism when they tank the economy.
I doubt it.  GOP just found out that there is no price to pay for obstructionism, if anything the voters will blame the havoc on the people being obstructed.

I don't see them not going for the kill, everything about their track record indicates that they're the party on a mission and will ruthlessly seize on any power they can grab.  They will probably also seize on any opportunity to bake in their political advantage while they have unfettered ability to pass anything, such as voter suppression measures on a federal level.

I'm afraid that the only possible check on GOP is either a civil war breaking out in the middle of dividing the spoils, or the Donald going rogue on them.

CountDeMoney

The GOP decided almost a year ago that the President's Supreme Court nominee would not even get a hearing, and even as late as this week GOP Senators began talking about going an entire Clinton presidency with only 8 justices.

Well, guess what.  Maybe they're right.

DGuller

Just goes to show why politics is a game for cutthroat characters.  Playing by the unwritten rules just leaves you vulnerable to the first-mover advantage of the other side breaking the rules on you at the worst possible moment for you.