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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tonitrus

It'd just be another TACO anyways.

The Minsky Moment

What genocide?

Sure there is terrible violence in Nigeria and its possible the US could do something to help.  And also possible the US could make things worse.

Meanwhile there are far greater levels of violence going on in the Sudan, including what appears to be a rerun of the genocidal campaign in Darfur. The disconnect is extraordinary as the Nigeria statements from the administration come out at the same time as video evidence is flowing in about widespread massacres in Darfur.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Josquius

Again highlights a key in this stuff is how connected a place is to the world, how many cameras connected to the Internet there are.
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Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 11:12:46 AMWhat genocide?

Sure there is terrible violence in Nigeria and its possible the US could do something to help.  And also possible the US could make things worse.

Meanwhile there are far greater levels of violence going on in the Sudan, including what appears to be a rerun of the genocidal campaign in Darfur. The disconnect is extraordinary as the Nigeria statements from the administration come out at the same time as video evidence is flowing in about widespread massacres in Darfur.

I keep being told it we can't do something Darfur.  But presumably we can do something about Nigeria.  Fuck, I don't know.  I can't keep track of who's lives are important and who's lives aren't.  Maybe we should print up some shirts that say "Queers for Nigerian Christians", and some other ones that say "Fatties for Darfur".  See if that helps.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

The Minsky Moment

In Nigeria the problem is ISIS and Boko Haram.  They recruit and extract resources from the region and there is not much the US can do other than put boots on the ground or act as "advisors" to Nigerian forces.

In Sudan the RSF is more substantial and relies on foreign backers like the UAE, Chad, and one of the factions in Libya.  So presumably the US could something without formal intervention by playing into what is supposed to be Trump's strong suit: leaning on other countries to stop funding conflicts.  Yet his admin has shown no interest in that conflict.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Zoupa

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:42:30 PMI keep being told it we can't do something Darfur.  But presumably we can do something about Nigeria. 

Who's telling you we can't do anything about Darfour? Who's telling you we can do something about Nigeria?