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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 18, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 08:06:40 PM
Nonsense, that just Oex with traditional Euroweenie anti-Americanism.

The world is going to miss us, because the best global policeman is the reluctant one.  Enjoy your Pax Cossacka, suckers.

Nothing of the sort, even though it probably is reassuring for you to fall back on the old tired tropes in uncertain times.

It had nothing to do with "The best global policeman" of the world. I know the good old American isolationism fetish is alive and kicking, and it always had a voice in American political discourse.  What I find worrying is the support for military within the US as military, as opposed to the expression of American spirit found in its other institutions or in civil society. It is the valuation of military as the strength and power that should befit America, whereas diplomacy, civility, is weak and politics is morally bankrupt. Coupled with the general discredit in which most other American institutions seem to have sunken in, I find that worrying - and find that expressions of dissent, on this particular matter, are becoming increasingly thin. The whole rhetoric of the US owing their freedom to the troops is especially disconcerting.

Well, that's different.  I completely agree with the whole "Service Guarantees Citizenship!" bullshit with the armed services, and how an increasingly smaller percentage of the population is carrying an increasingly heavier load when it comes to military service, while attributing elitist deference to it.  It is very disconcerting. 

But expressions of dissent?  That's becoming a universal trend in all discourse.  Look at the intrawebs.



Anyway, I just figured that, well, you were being you and just being a Eurodoucheweenie. My bad. WITHDRAWN

CountDeMoney


11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 08:43:30 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on January 18, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 08:06:40 PM
Nonsense, that just Oex with traditional Euroweenie anti-Americanism.

The world is going to miss us, because the best global policeman is the reluctant one.  Enjoy your Pax Cossacka, suckers.

Nothing of the sort, even though it probably is reassuring for you to fall back on the old tired tropes in uncertain times.

It had nothing to do with "The best global policeman" of the world. I know the good old American isolationism fetish is alive and kicking, and it always had a voice in American political discourse.  What I find worrying is the support for military within the US as military, as opposed to the expression of American spirit found in its other institutions or in civil society. It is the valuation of military as the strength and power that should befit America, whereas diplomacy, civility, is weak and politics is morally bankrupt. Coupled with the general discredit in which most other American institutions seem to have sunken in, I find that worrying - and find that expressions of dissent, on this particular matter, are becoming increasingly thin. The whole rhetoric of the US owing their freedom to the troops is especially disconcerting.

Well, that's different.  I completely agree with the whole "Service Guarantees Citizenship!" bullshit with the armed services, and how an increasingly smaller percentage of the population is carrying an increasingly heavier load when it comes to military service, while attributing elitist deference to it.  It is very disconcerting. 

But expressions of dissent?  That's becoming a universal trend in all discourse.  Look at the intrawebs.



Anyway, I just figured that, well, you were being you and just being a Eurodoucheweenie. My bad. WITHDRAWN

He's from where?
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 08:47:55 PM
He's from where?

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the veterans preference points you earned for getting drafted out of the hood to fight in Vietnam.

Oexmelin

@Bravo:

You could ask me directly. :)

Canada. Though I live in the US now.

Que le grand cric me croque !

11B4V

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 18, 2017, 08:52:38 PM
@Bravo:

You could ask me directly. :)

Canada. Though I live in the US now.

I thought Sweden. Don't know why.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 08:47:55 PM
He's from where?

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the veterans preference points you earned for getting drafted out of the hood to fight in Vietnam.

MAH POINTS.
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 08:47:55 PM
He's from where?

Sorry, I can't hear you over all the veterans preference points you earned for getting drafted out of the hood to fight in Vietnam.

But on a serious note.

Points FTW.

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
But on a serious note.

Points FTW.

Don't worry, scooter.  Once Der Furor is in there, he's going to fix your Fed wagon.  Enjoy watching your federal pension get converted to a 401k.  It'll be as if you're actually reaching out and giving Yi a handjob.

CountDeMoney

Quote
New York Times
'Learning Curve' as Rick Perry Pursues a Job He Initially Misunderstood
By CORAL DAVENPORT and DAVID E. SANGER
JAN. 18, 2017

WASHINGTON — When President-elect Donald J. Trump offered Rick Perry the job of energy secretary five weeks ago, Mr. Perry gladly accepted, believing he was taking on a role as a global ambassador for the American oil and gas industry that he had long championed in his home state.

In the days after, Mr. Perry, the former Texas governor, discovered that he would be no such thing — that in fact, if confirmed by the Senate, he would become the steward of a vast national security complex he knew almost nothing about, caring for the most fearsome weapons on the planet, the United States' nuclear arsenal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/us/politics/rick-perry-energy-secretary-donald-trump.html


That's right, boys and girls:  Rick Perry actually thought he would be the Secretary of energy.  Little "e".   Electricity.  Gas.  Oil.  Light bulbs.  That's the Secretary of State nominee.  :lol:



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11B4V

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
But on a serious note.

Points FTW.

Don't worry, scooter.  Once Der Furor is in there, he's going to fix your Fed wagon.  Enjoy watching your federal pension get converted to a 401k.  It'll be as if you're actually reaching out and giving Yi a handjob.

1. Military retirement.

2. DoD getting more money.

3. TSP

4.  :blurgh:
"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Jacob


CountDeMoney

Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 10:11:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 18, 2017, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 18, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
But on a serious note.

Points FTW.

Don't worry, scooter.  Once Der Furor is in there, he's going to fix your Fed wagon.  Enjoy watching your federal pension get converted to a 401k.  It'll be as if you're actually reaching out and giving Yi a handjob.

1. Military retirement.

2. DoD getting more money.

3. TSP

4.  :blurgh:

You know, it took me a long while to figure it out...all this time, all these years, how my most conservative friends, extended circle, connections, former and even present coworkers, even anecdotal make-believe bullshit internet acquaintances, it always puzzled me:  how could the most conservative people I know, the ones that hate "guvmint freebies" and welfare and " the takers"...how can they hate all these concepts, yet all work for government, or other elements of the public or civil sector? 

And I realized it:  it's not that conservatives dislike the idea of government; far from it:  for all their bullshit about the public trough, they actually enjoy being the biggest pigs with their snouts in it.  It's that they dislike the concept of African-Americans in government

Freebies are fine, as long as they don't go to niggers.  Welfare is great, provided it doesn't go to all those darkies.  I'm not a "taker", I earned this lifetime gravy gig by changing Humvee motor oil for 3 years, but that darkie over there got it because of quotas.

All makes complete sense now.