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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2025, 05:22:31 AMI think that people with gender dysphoria is different than people who believe that gender is a social construct.  Why must I be either cruel or kind?  Why can't I just be ambivalent?

Well being cruel or kind is an act. Being ambivalent is a feeling. And I do find trans-ness a little annoying, I am old and set in my ways. But I can just address them how they want to be addressed and treat them like human beings you know?

I guess I don't really understand the second part. I mean what you do as a gender is a social construct, each human society has different rules for which gender you display. Is it somehow against the laws of science for some people of a sex to act a certain way and another to act a different way?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 14, 2025, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 14, 2025, 01:48:15 PMPromotions put you back on probation? Is that an American thing? Here probation is your first three months, usually.

Either way, 10% new hires or promotions sounds weirdly high. Nerfed CDC and a antivax administration, what could go wrong?

Reading between the lines it is someone who moved into a management position.  It would be common here for that person to have a probationary period as well.  But the outcome of a failed probation is different.  That person would be removed from their management position and go back to their previous job.  They would not lose their employment entirely.

The key takeaway is that someone promoted internally to a management position is the person perceived as among the strongest of their cohort.  So the effect of the policy is to cull the best workers.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Valmy

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Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2025, 11:44:46 AMYeah, I'm not getting back into this.  This is policed very, very heavily.  The moment you ask even basic questions about it people literally want to throw you in a concentration camp.

Oh this? This is nothing. You should see the shit I get when I say we should be nice to trans people out in the regular internet. I hate women and want them all raped. I want to destroy society.

Or say wind energy is actually pretty good. Oh god does that make me a corrupt dishonest paid shill of big governobusiness.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Barrister

Quote from: garbon on February 14, 2025, 01:54:08 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 14, 2025, 01:43:11 PMI obviously can't force you to engage in social discourse with your fellow citizens. But I won't stop telling you I think that is an obligation you have as a member of civil society.

I can ignore you too, unless vM removes the feature. ^_^

I have found the "ignore" feature quite useful here.

Now - I will often click through to see the post, and even sometimes respond - but it's a useful self-reminder of "do you really want to do this"?

Sometimes I really do.

Somtimes I decide that no, I do not.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Barrister

Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2025, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2025, 11:44:46 AMYeah, I'm not getting back into this.  This is policed very, very heavily.  The moment you ask even basic questions about it people literally want to throw you in a concentration camp.

Oh this? This is nothing. You should see the shit I get when I say we should be nice to trans people out in the regular internet. I hate women and want them all raped. I want to destroy society.

Oh say wind energy is actually pretty good. Oh god does that make me a corrupt dishonest paid shill of big governobusiness.

I see a lot of that kind of shit on Twitter - but you get it in real life?
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2025, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2025, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 14, 2025, 11:44:46 AMYeah, I'm not getting back into this.  This is policed very, very heavily.  The moment you ask even basic questions about it people literally want to throw you in a concentration camp.

Oh this? This is nothing. You should see the shit I get when I say we should be nice to trans people out in the regular internet. I hate women and want them all raped. I want to destroy society.

Oh say wind energy is actually pretty good. Oh god does that make me a corrupt dishonest paid shill of big governobusiness.

I see a lot of that kind of shit on Twitter - but you get it in real life?

I said the regular internet. I am smart enough to not bring up these topics in real life  :ph34r: unless I am confident in the company I am keeping.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sophie Scholl

Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2025, 01:59:24 PMNow - I will often click through to see the post, and even sometimes respond - but it's a useful self-reminder of "do you really want to do this"?

Sometimes I really do.

Somtimes I decide that no, I do not.
"The three things you must always ask yourself before you say anything: 1) Does this need to be said 2) Does this need to be said by me? 3) Does this need to be said by me now?"
-Craig Ferguson
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

crazy canuck

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 14, 2025, 01:57:05 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 14, 2025, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 14, 2025, 01:48:15 PMPromotions put you back on probation? Is that an American thing? Here probation is your first three months, usually.

Either way, 10% new hires or promotions sounds weirdly high. Nerfed CDC and a antivax administration, what could go wrong?

Reading between the lines it is someone who moved into a management position.  It would be common here for that person to have a probationary period as well.  But the outcome of a failed probation is different.  That person would be removed from their management position and go back to their previous job.  They would not lose their employment entirely.

The key takeaway is that someone promoted internally to a management position is the person perceived as among the strongest of their cohort.  So the effect of the policy is to cull the best workers.

Not necessarily the best workers, but certainly the future leaders of the organization.

HVC

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on February 14, 2025, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2025, 01:59:24 PMNow - I will often click through to see the post, and even sometimes respond - but it's a useful self-reminder of "do you really want to do this"?

Sometimes I really do.

Somtimes I decide that no, I do not.
"The three things you must always ask yourself before you say anything: 1) Does this need to be said 2) Does this need to be said by me? 3) Does this need to be said by me now?"
-Craig Ferguson

I miss his late show. I could really use robot cohost right now.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sophie Scholl

Quote from: HVC on February 14, 2025, 02:08:41 PMI miss his late show. I could really use robot cohost right now.
It remains my all-time favorite Late Night show ever. Especially the final years plus where he just gave zero fucks. Geoff Peterson, Secretariat, amazing interviews, rambling amusing intro monologues. It was near perfection. ...and now it is gone.  :weep:
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

frunk

Quote from: HVC on February 14, 2025, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: Sophie Scholl on February 14, 2025, 02:07:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2025, 01:59:24 PMNow - I will often click through to see the post, and even sometimes respond - but it's a useful self-reminder of "do you really want to do this"?

Sometimes I really do.

Somtimes I decide that no, I do not.
"The three things you must always ask yourself before you say anything: 1) Does this need to be said 2) Does this need to be said by me? 3) Does this need to be said by me now?"
-Craig Ferguson

I miss his late show. I could really use robot cohost right now.

He recently did an interview with Josh Robert Thompson, the voice of Geoff.

HVC

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on February 14, 2025, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 14, 2025, 02:08:41 PMI miss his late show. I could really use robot cohost right now.
It remains my all-time favorite Late Night show ever. Especially the final years plus where he just gave zero fucks. Geoff Peterson, Secretariat, amazing interviews, rambling amusing intro monologues. It was near perfection. ...and now it is gone.  :weep:

His was the only late night I ever liked. He ranged from irreverent to Peabody award winning with such ease. Great interview skills, although some of his stuff might not fly anymore with female guests (no more harmonicas :lol: ).

@frunk thanks! I'll have to check it out.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2025, 02:00:13 PMI see a lot of that kind of shit on Twitter - but you get it in real life?

Deep in the heart of Texas!
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

viper37

Quote from: garbon on February 14, 2025, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: viper37 on February 14, 2025, 11:44:07 AM
Quote from: garbon on February 14, 2025, 03:35:44 AMThose just sound like excuses. Understandable excuses but that's still not really a defense against Yi's claim.
But the US has pulled out of numerous treaties.  And it's not the first time it has slapped tariffs on allies because your industries are non competitive, following your refusal to follow environmental advancements.

Canada has a similar problem with a part of its industry now.  China has surpassed us in many fields because we refused to invest in climate science.

I don't see what any of this has to do with European contributing to its own defense.
Defense isn't free.

And Europe is contributing.

I just gave you the link to prove it.  Defense spending are on the rise again.

If you need to see it graphically:
https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/6/pdf/240617-def-exp-2024-en.pdf


Only an handful of countries are below their 2% target and below the 20% spent on equipment expenditure.

Canada, Italia, Belgium, Portugal, Croatia, Slovenia, Spain, Luxemburg.


The first 3 are problematic.  I can't say I have not been vocal about Canada.  Portugal has had economic problems, but their military expenses are rising.  The other 2 are recent additions and they are rearming. Gotta give them some time.  They had Soviet armament and were supposed to buy American hardware, I think.  I guess it's a risky move now.

Spain is just beginning its economic recovery phase.  Luxemburg is Luxemburg.  Their use to NATO has never been for military hardware.  Nobody expects a Luxemburg SSN to lauch a first strike against America newfound ally.

The US spends more than most because it wanted to protect its vital commercial interests.

But it is a moot point now, as America has announced its surrender to China and Russia.
Defense stocks drop after Trump says Pentagon spending could be halved

American commercial interests will be replaced by Chinese and Russian interests in most countries faster than they already where since 2016.  It's like seeing the fall of the Western Roman Empire in slow motion, the client kingdoms losing their access to trade, Britannia being told to fuck off and die, then Gaul and Africa.

People like Yi somehow seems to believe it made Rome richer and stronger, with its people more secure.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Valmy

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on February 14, 2025, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 14, 2025, 02:00:13 PMI see a lot of that kind of shit on Twitter - but you get it in real life?

Deep in the heart of Texas!

I definitely would get some hostile reactions if I shared ideas like that in mixed company. And it is not always obvious who is mixed company and who isn't.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."