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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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viper37

Trump ends Fauci's security detail and says he'd feel no responsibility if harm befell him

QuotePresident Donald Trump has ended the federal security detail for Dr. Anthony Fauci, the infectious disease expert who advised him on the COVID-19 pandemic, a person familiar with the matter said Friday.

Fauci is the latest in a string of former Trump aides-turned-critics to see their federal protection canceled despite ongoing threats to their lives.

Speaking to reporters in North Carolina on Friday, Trump said he wouldn't feel any responsibility if harm befell the former government officials. A person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security issues, said that Fauci's federal security detail was ended on Thursday and that he has since hired private security.
When asked about Fauci and former national security adviser John Bolton, Trump said, "They all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too."

Trump, a Republican, earlier this week revoked protection details for former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and his top aide, Brian Hook, as well as Bolton. All have faced threats from Iran since they took hard-line stances on the Islamic Republic during Trump's first administration and fell out with him in the years after he left office in 2021. 

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I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

#34891
All foreign suspended, except for Israel, Egypt and emergency humanitarian aid.

No mention of Ukraine, so it's likely their funds are cut too.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/24/politics/us-freezes-foreign-aid/index.html
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Oexmelin

"Never seen anything like this': Trump's team halts NIH meetings and travel
In an unprecedented move, research-grant reviews have been suspended indefinitely at the world's largest public funder of biomedical research."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00231-y

Mandatory reminder for Americans to get involved, with some sense of the urgency of the task.
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Admiral Yi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bVznQs1C10

Three Republicans--McConnell, Collins, Murkowski--vote against Hegseth.  Vance breaks tie.

Syt

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5105602-donald-trump-greenland-denmark/

QuoteTrump had 'fiery' call with Danish prime minister over Greenland: Report

President Trump reportedly held a "fiery" call with Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen over the president's insistence that U.S. control of Greenland is necessary for American national security.

A 45 minute call between Trump and Frederiksen last week spiraled into confrontation, senior European officials told the Financial Times. Trump, at that time the president-elect, was reportedly aggressive and threatened tariffs against the NATO ally.

National Security Council spokesperson Brian Hughes did not comment on the tone of the call but said Trump is focused on Greenland as part of the larger competition between China and Russia.

"President Trump has been clear that the safety and security of Greenland is important to the United States as China and Russia make significant investments throughout the Arctic region," Hughes said in a statement.

"The President is committed to not only protecting U.S. interests in the Arctic but also working with Greenland to ensure mutual prosperity for both nations," he added.

Trump has focused intently on plans to take over Greenland, an autonomous Arctic island that is part of the kingdom of Denmark. During his inauguration speech, he referred to the U.S. as a growing nation expanding its territory. Trump has also called for the U.S. to retake the Panama Canal and mused about annexing Canada.

Trump and Frederiksen spoke by phone on Jan. 15. The Danish prime minister said at the time she referred to remarks by the chair of Greenland's Parliament that the island is not for sale and that it is up to Greenland to make its decision about its independence.

She also offered for Denmark to shoulder a greater responsibility for security in the Arctic, emphasized that Danish companies contribute to growth and jobs in the United States, and that the EU and the U.S. have a common interest in strengthened trade, according to a readout from her office.


The Trump transition team did not release details of that phone call, but Trump said at a press conference on Jan. 7 that he would not rule out economic or military force to take control of the Arctic island.

Speaking from the Oval Office hours after he was sworn in as president, Trump doubled-down on his intent to subsume Greenland and said, "I'm sure that Denmark will come along."

But Frederiksen is viewed as a no-nonsense, security-focused professional who was critical of the Biden administration's slow drip of weapons for Ukraine, said one American foreign policy expert who met with the Danish prime minister.

"She's like the John Bolton of Europe; she's hard-charging," the expert said, referring to Trump's onetime national security adviser whom the president has extreme animosity toward, criticizing him as stupid and a war monger. Trump recently pulled Bolton's security detail that was in place over threats of assassination from Iran.

Frederiksen taking a tough line against Trump could have provoked the conversation to spiral, the expert speculated.

"She doesn't seem like the type that would give any ground. Not that she's unreasonable, but not the kind that would take any s‑‑‑."

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 24, 2025, 10:32:05 PM"Never seen anything like this': Trump's team halts NIH meetings and travel
In an unprecedented move, research-grant reviews have been suspended indefinitely at the world's largest public funder of biomedical research."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00231-y

Mandatory reminder for Americans to get involved, with some sense of the urgency of the task.

This has been a topic of a lot of discussion amongst those of us who advise universities.

Unfortunately this is probably just the tip of the iceberg as the Trumpists defund everything they dislike about universities.


Oexmelin

Oh, I know. The NEH was on borrowed time last Trump mandate; gender studies programs too. The NIH is only the current one where action has already been taken.

I am so glad I GTFO. American universities will surrender silently.
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Syt

So the likely future FBI director put out an enemy list a while ago: https://newrepublic.com/article/188946/kash-patel-fbi-enemies-list

The list includes people like Michael Bolton. Meanwhile, Trump removes the security detail of people like Pompeo, Fauci, or, *checks notes* Bolton.

And he pardoned 1500 rioters who were angry enough at the deep state to storm the Capitol.

If this was done by a screenwriter it would be rejected because it's "too cartoonish and villainous." :P
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

PRC

At a certain point this Trump administration will make moves, with or without the veil of legality, that are such egregious violations of the US Constitution that the legitimacy of the US Federal Government will be rejected by one or more states.  Or not.

Maladict

Quote from: PRC on January 25, 2025, 01:01:12 PMAt a certain point this Trump administration will make moves, with or without the veil of legality, that are such egregious violations of the US Constitution that the legitimacy of the US Federal Government will be rejected by one or more states.  Or not.

Blue states are unlikely to win a civil war.

Valmy

Quote from: Maladict on January 25, 2025, 02:14:52 PMBlue states are unlikely to win a civil war.

I don't even know how that would work, we are not really divided cleanly between blue states and red states but more like cities versus rural areas. But in any case the decisive issue would be what the military does, not which color a state is.
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Maladict

Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2025, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Maladict on January 25, 2025, 02:14:52 PMBlue states are unlikely to win a civil war.

I don't even know how that would work, we are not really divided cleanly between blue states and red states but more like cities versus rural areas. But in any case the decisive issue would be what the military does, not which color a state is.

I assume, if the country did fracture along political lines, the military would as well. 

mongers

Quote from: Maladict on January 25, 2025, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 25, 2025, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: Maladict on January 25, 2025, 02:14:52 PMBlue states are unlikely to win a civil war.

I don't even know how that would work, we are not really divided cleanly between blue states and red states but more like cities versus rural areas. But in any case the decisive issue would be what the military does, not which color a state is.

I assume, if the country did fracture along political lines, the military would as well. 

My straws in the wind are:

US army and national guard split heavily towards Trump, given the large number of bases in the South and rural areas, plus because of the class of many recruits.

The navy, despite class consideration, is more city based and east/west coasts, also probably more likely to accept long standing traditions like the constitution, so an even split or more towards the democrats.

The air force, what the hell, they'll have spent too much time on the interwebs whilst at their chairs, so likely very susceptible to online propaganda, so will probably go where their X-rated edgelord leads them or choose the side that give the most bombing possibilities
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CountDeMoney

You guys can all stfu with all your whacking off about civil wars.  There's about as much of a chance of an American civil war than there is a Bolshevik revolution.  Everybody's got to be at work on Monday.

mongers

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 25, 2025, 02:54:19 PMYou guys can all stfu with all your whacking off about civil wars.  There's about as much of a chance of an American civil war than there is a Bolshevik revolution.  Everybody's got to be at work on Monday.

Well I'm not suggesting this weekend, but maybe when WFH is outlawed and 'return to office' is made mandatory.  :P


Oh and hello Money.  :cool:
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