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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Any judge writing the opinion Kavanaugh wrote would be a target for criticism because it unnecessarily and gratuitously echoed talking points of the Trump campaign.  The fact that it was Kavanaugh, already perceived as being partisan in a political sense, just adds fuel.  It also raises questions about why those points were raised.  The Wisconsin decision was easily justifiable based on the Purcell precedent holding that federal courts should refrain from last minute changes to state election rules.  Kavanaugh cited and relied on that principle but then went off on a tangent about the substantive benefits of a strict election day receipt cutoff. Application of Purcell  would suggest the GOP challenge to Pennsylvania would fail - the Kavanaugh opinion looks a lot like an opening shot to flip the result of that case.
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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

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grumbler

The chances of the next Senate voting by a two-thirds majority to impeach Kavanaugh are nil, unless he does something overt.
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merithyn

Quote from: Syt on October 29, 2020, 12:42:28 PM
But stuff like this (heh - butt stuff) is why such highly politicized candidated, rammed through after significant controversy, are problematic. They are under a microscope from the other side. Any error they make, will be viewed as either incompetence or partisanship, regardless of whether it's an innocent mistake by them or one of their clerks. And it will reduce the acceptance by the population of their rulings unless they act "cleanly".

IIRC, this is why Thomas rarely speaks. It started as a way to avoid that very thing happening, and became something he relished as his reputation.

Kavanaugh has clearly chosen another route.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: grumbler on October 29, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
The chances of the next Senate voting by a two-thirds majority to impeach Kavanaugh are nil, unless he does something overt.

FYP
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--Joan Robinson

Admiral Yi

Quote from: merithyn on October 29, 2020, 01:37:36 PM
IIRC, this is why Thomas rarely speaks.

I've read it's because he's embarrassed by his Geechee accent.

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Oexmelin

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 29, 2020, 01:12:21 PM
Any judge writing the opinion Kavanaugh wrote would be a target for criticism because it unnecessarily and gratuitously echoed talking points of the Trump campaign.  The fact that it was Kavanaugh, already perceived as being partisan in a political sense, just adds fuel.

Indeed: "potentially flip the results of an election." flip the result"?!? It would not flip anything. It would be part of the result. 
Que le grand cric me croque !

Razgovory

Quote from: grumbler on October 29, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
The chances of the next Senate voting by a two-thirds majority to impeach Kavanaugh are nil, unless he does something overt.




I thought you only needed a simple majority for people who aren't the President.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

Quote from: Oexmelin on October 29, 2020, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 29, 2020, 01:12:21 PM
Any judge writing the opinion Kavanaugh wrote would be a target for criticism because it unnecessarily and gratuitously echoed talking points of the Trump campaign.  The fact that it was Kavanaugh, already perceived as being partisan in a political sense, just adds fuel.

Indeed: "potentially flip the results of an election." flip the result"?!? It would not flip anything. It would be part of the result. 

Votes being counted could flip the result of an election.
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Barrister

Quote from: Razgovory on October 29, 2020, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 29, 2020, 01:28:32 PM
The chances of the next Senate voting by a two-thirds majority to impeach Kavanaugh are nil, unless he does something overt.




I thought you only needed a simple majority for people who aren't the President.

Nope same rules as the President: majority in the house to impeach, 2/3 in the Senate to remove.
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Oexmelin

Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
Votes being counted could flip the result of an election.

No, they wouldn't. It's semantics, but it's important semantics in the context. Votes being counted do not flip the results. They are the results. This way of speaking implies you already have "the" result that is somehow modified by some external, subsequent influence.
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Valmy

Quote from: Oexmelin on October 29, 2020, 03:43:22 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 29, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
Votes being counted could flip the result of an election.

No, they wouldn't. It's semantics, but it's important semantics in the context. Votes being counted do not flip the results. They are the results. This way of speaking implies you already have "the" result that is somehow modified by some external, subsequent influence.

Yes, that was the joke. As if the result of an election can be determined separately without counting votes.

I understand that in today's political climate it is hard to say something so stupid and so illogical that people pick up you are not being serious so I understand  :ph34r:
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."