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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

The Regional Transmission Organizations which coordinate transmission across regions are somewhat newish. The white parts still operate using older more localized methods.

For example transmission lines and facilities are ordered by MISO through their system planning (every RTO does this a little differently but this is how they do it). Not everybody likes that. For example those jursdictions with hydro generators you mentioned who might want to build transmission according to where they can sell their power for the most, rather than the interests of the province next door.

In Texas, El Paso is the only area that is not in a RTO so the only people they need to worry about is the Feds and us here at the Texas PUC, there is no RTO telling them what to build or reviewing their projects.
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Quoteshows the Regional Transmission Authorities that manage the bulk of UK electricity movement.  Connecting the SPP and ERCOT to the electric utilities to the west of them doesn't get them connected to the West Coast.  The big white space to the west of the SPP and ERCOT includes lots of mountains.  Crossing those with HVDC lines isn't going to be cheap.

Heh it will be a cold day in hell ERCOT connects itself to the western or eastern interconnects  :ph34r:

Though ERCOT did recently build a HVDC link to the eastern interconnect to sell wind power.

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Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

There is plenty of private construction activity going on in those areas e.g. https://www.tenwestlink.com/project-info.html

My understanding was that NREL proposal was specific to the "seam" but the documentation is sparse at this point.
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Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

This is an issue that's come up in Canada from time to time.  Provinces with significant hydro power have transmission lines running south to the US, but there is no east-to-west transmission between provinces.  I think it was in the Conservative election platform from the last election to have a national utilities corridor.

BC had a deal with Alberta under the Alberta NDP to build hydro lines to supply hydro power so that Alberta could start shutting down its fossil fuel power generators.  I think that went up when the Alberta Conservatives were elected with their all oil all the time platform.  No sense in supplying hydro if Alberta is going to keep its current facilities online.

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Quote from: crazy canuck on September 01, 2020, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

This is an issue that's come up in Canada from time to time.  Provinces with significant hydro power have transmission lines running south to the US, but there is no east-to-west transmission between provinces.  I think it was in the Conservative election platform from the last election to have a national utilities corridor.

BC had a deal with Alberta under the Alberta NDP to build hydro lines to supply hydro power so that Alberta could start shutting down its fossil fuel power generators.  I think that went up when the Alberta Conservatives were elected with their all oil all the time platform.  No sense in supplying hydro if Alberta is going to keep its current facilities online.

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Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

This is an issue that's come up in Canada from time to time.  Provinces with significant hydro power have transmission lines running south to the US, but there is no east-to-west transmission between provinces.  I think it was in the Conservative election platform from the last election to have a national utilities corridor.
Ontario prefers federal subsidies for nuclear energy and Alberta+Sask do not want any competition to coal, oil or gaz.  It was a nice idea, but dead in the water.
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We're trying to build a HVDC from here to ultimately reach NYC. NH rejected it back in 2018/9, now the project is trying to go thru Maine.

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Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 01, 2020, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

This is an issue that's come up in Canada from time to time.  Provinces with significant hydro power have transmission lines running south to the US, but there is no east-to-west transmission between provinces.  I think it was in the Conservative election platform from the last election to have a national utilities corridor.

BC had a deal with Alberta under the Alberta NDP to build hydro lines to supply hydro power so that Alberta could start shutting down its fossil fuel power generators.  I think that went up when the Alberta Conservatives were elected with their all oil all the time platform.  No sense in supplying hydro if Alberta is going to keep its current facilities online.

Link me.

https://www.corporateknights.com/channels/built-environment/bridging-the-divide-bc-hydro-alberta-wind-15411115/

Notely suspended under the all oil all the time pressure and the current government killed it because all oil all the time.

Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on September 02, 2020, 09:57:47 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 01, 2020, 08:37:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 01, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Weird map, as those big white areas certainly have electricity transmission agencies of their own.

This is an issue that's come up in Canada from time to time.  Provinces with significant hydro power have transmission lines running south to the US, but there is no east-to-west transmission between provinces.  I think it was in the Conservative election platform from the last election to have a national utilities corridor.

BC had a deal with Alberta under the Alberta NDP to build hydro lines to supply hydro power so that Alberta could start shutting down its fossil fuel power generators.  I think that went up when the Alberta Conservatives were elected with their all oil all the time platform.  No sense in supplying hydro if Alberta is going to keep its current facilities online.

Link me.

https://www.corporateknights.com/channels/built-environment/bridging-the-divide-bc-hydro-alberta-wind-15411115/

Notely suspended under the all oil all the time pressure and the current government killed it because all oil all the time.

From your link:

QuoteEarlier this year, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley suspended talks[/u] on electricity trade as a result of the B.C. government's efforts to block expansion of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. United Conservative Party opposition leader Jason Kenney has pushed Notley to be even more aggressive in punishing B.C. for its government's actions that are seen to damage Alberta's economy by denying export markets for its crude.

Talks.  There was no deal.

Personally, I'm okay with buying hydro from BC.  Though I think we should also buy it from Manitoba, which is doing a huge expansion without a guaranteed purchaser, so we could probably get it for cheaper.
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Discussing this elsewhere, but is there any historical precedent for this level of "Glorious Leader" cult like devotion to a candidate that we're seeing with Trump anywhere else in American history? The closest I could think of would be Washington, and maybe Jackson or FDR.
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Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 02, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
Discussing this elsewhere, but is there any historical precedent for this level of "Glorious Leader" cult like devotion to a candidate that we're seeing with Trump anywhere else in American history? The closest I could think of would be Washington, and maybe Jackson or FDR.

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Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 02, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
Discussing this elsewhere, but is there any historical precedent for this level of "Glorious Leader" cult like devotion to a candidate that we're seeing with Trump anywhere else in American history? The closest I could think of would be Washington, and maybe Jackson or FDR.

Reagan maybe - his name has been invoked for years in glowing terms in GOP circles.
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But not to these levels.
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Quote from: Benedict Arnold on September 02, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
Discussing this elsewhere, but is there any historical precedent for this level of "Glorious Leader" cult like devotion to a candidate that we're seeing with Trump anywhere else in American history? The closest I could think of would be Washington, and maybe Jackson or FDR.
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