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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on August 05, 2020, 04:10:52 AM
The whole article is worth reading, btw, for example about his views on the Russia/Ukraine conflict, or the NATO intervention in the Serbia/Kosovo conflict or his ideas to use the US military to fortify the Mexican border.

They send this guy to Germany, they sent that half-Japanese guy to S. Korea who for a long while insisted to sport an Imperial Japanese style mustache... I am seeing a pattern.

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The key requirements to being a Trump-era ambassador are willingness to offend and insult the host country and an absolute fidelity to pursuing the national interest.*


*the Russian national interest, to be clear.
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Zanza

As the current US administration is openly hostile towards Germany, the person nominated as ambassador seems fairly irrelevant. It's not like he will much more than a mouthpiece of his president.

Caliga

Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2020, 04:06:04 PM
As the current US administration is openly hostile towards Germany, the person nominated as ambassador seems fairly irrelevant. It's not like he will much more than a mouthpiece of his president.
Germany just needs to get rid of Merkel.  Trump doesn't like sassy women. :)
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Caliga on August 05, 2020, 04:14:09 PM
Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2020, 04:06:04 PM
As the current US administration is openly hostile towards Germany, the person nominated as ambassador seems fairly irrelevant. It's not like he will much more than a mouthpiece of his president.
Germany just needs to get rid of Merkel.  Trump doesn't like sassy women. :)
Or any women - he was not exactly a fan of Theresa May either:
QuoteDonald Trump 'bullied and got nasty' with Theresa May during phone calls, officials claim
Former prime minister got nervous and flustered during 'humiliating' conversations with US president, Carl Bernstein investigation reveals
    Adam Forrest
    @adamtomforrest
    Tuesday 30 June 2020 09:15
    65 comments

Donald Trump repeatedly tried to demean Theresa May when she was UK prime minister during a series of "humiliating and bullying" conversations, according to a US report.

The US president is said to have attacked Ms May as weak — calling her "a fool" in her approach to Brexit, NATO and immigration during phone calls held between 2016 and 2019.


Stunning new claims about Mr Trump's calls with world leaders were made by Carl Bernstein in a CNN report, based on accounts from dozens of top officials privy to the conversations in real time or printouts soon afterwards.

"He'd get agitated about something with Theresa May, then he'd get nasty with her on the phone call," one source told Mr Bernstein, best known for his involvement in breaking the Watergate scandal.

Ms May reportedly became "flustered and nervous" during her conversations with the US president. "He clearly intimidated her and meant to," said one of the CNN sources.


Mr Trump's most savage verbal attacks have been aimed at female heads of state, officials suggested — with German chancellor Angel Merkel reportedly coming in for especially rough treatment.

Like Ms May, Ms Merkel was subjected to "near-sadistic" diatribes during her calls with the American leader. "Some of the things he said to Angela Merkel are just unbelievable: he called her 'stupid', and accused her of being in the pocket of the Russians," said one official.


However, unlike the ex-prime minister, Ms Merkel is said to have remained completely calm in the face of the rants, often reciting facts and figures in response, "like water off a duck's back".

The calls were felt to be so unusual that special measures were taken to make sure they remained secret, according to a German official — who claimed that the circle of people involved in monitoring the calls had been reduced.

By contrast, Mr Trump is said to have enjoyed friendly calls with Russian president Vladimir Putin and Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan, despite being unprepared and "outplayed" by these autocratic leaders.
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One official said Mr Trump "thinks he can build himself up enough as a businessman and tough guy that Putin will respect him", while another said the conversations with the Russian leader sounded like "two guys in a steam bath".

The US president also "boasted" about his own personal wealth to heads of state such as Saudi heir Mohammed bin Salman and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un.


Two sources told CNN that the calls led several former Trump officials — including national security adviser John Bolton, defence secretary James Mattis, secretary of state Rex Tillerson and White House chief of staff John Kelly — to conclude that the president was often "delusional".

The White House's deputy press secretary Sarah Matthews responded to the claims by stating: "President Trump is a world class negotiator who has consistently furthered America's interests on the world stage ... President Trump has shown his ability to advance America's strategic interests."

The Independent has approached Downing Street for comment.
Let's bomb Russia!

Zanza

I guess Trump specifically hates Merkel, so their is an element of truth in this. But if he is re-elected and when she retires in September 2021, I expect at best a very slight improvement of relations as the underlying issues Trump has with Germany will still be there with whoever her successor will be. 

merithyn

Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2020, 04:20:40 PM
I guess Trump specifically hates Merkel, so their is an element of truth in this. But if he is re-elected and when she retires in September 2021, I expect at best a very slight improvement of relations as the underlying issues Trump has with Germany will still be there with whoever her successor will be.

You're assuming that the successor will also be a woman, since his "underlying issues" with Ms. Merkel is that she's female. :)
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Brain

QuoteMr Trump's most savage verbal attacks have been aimed at female heads of state, officials suggested — with German chancellor Angel Merkel reportedly coming in for especially rough treatment.

Of course Trumpist officials would think that May and Merkel were/are heads of state.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

Zanza

No, I assume that he is hostile to Germany and this is just amplified by Merkel being a woman and smarter than him.

merithyn

Quote from: Zanza on August 05, 2020, 04:27:57 PM
No, I assume that he is hostile to Germany and this is just amplified by Merkel being a woman and smarter than him.

He's changed his tone with UK's Johnson since May left.

His issue is women.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Sheilbh

Quote from: merithyn on August 05, 2020, 04:30:27 PM
He's changed his tone with UK's Johnson since May left.

His issue is women.
Which is particularly bizarre as Johnson's government has been more openly critical than May's. I think he is particularly misogynist and just really can't deal with women who are his "equals".
Let's bomb Russia!

merithyn

Quote from: Sheilbh on August 05, 2020, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 05, 2020, 04:30:27 PM
He's changed his tone with UK's Johnson since May left.

His issue is women.
Which is particularly bizarre as Johnson's government has been more openly critical than May's. I think he is particularly misogynist and just really can't deal with women who are his "equals".

Or, as with Merkel, his better.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

Zanza

Not really related, but this is the current frontrunner as Merkel's successor.

Zoupa

Costumes are on point, gotta give him that.

Halloween pics?

grumbler

Quote from: Zoupa on August 05, 2020, 09:48:57 PM
Costumes are on point, gotta give him that.

Halloween pics?

No, I think those were just taken at different times last Thursday.

I like the cut of his jib.
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