What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: celedhring on December 23, 2016, 05:31:19 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 23, 2016, 05:28:56 AM
I thought I read that celebrities were giving him the cold shoulder with regards to the inauguration?

I read the tweet as "they're not giving me the cold shoulder, it's ME that I want DAH PIPOL instead"

Poor Syt is still reading Trump tweets as if they are stating facts.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: mongers on December 23, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
Where can I find odds and lay a bet that Trump will be the first* president to be replaced by the VP, because of declining mental fitness?

* I'm assuming this hasn't happened before?  :bowler:

It hasn't happened before, despite the fact that at least two sitting Presidents suffered from very serious declining mental fitness issues.
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Barrister

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 23, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
Where can I find odds and lay a bet that Trump will be the first* president to be replaced by the VP, because of declining mental fitness?

* I'm assuming this hasn't happened before?  :bowler:

It hasn't happened before, despite the fact that at least two sitting Presidents suffered from very serious declining mental fitness issues.

FDR and Wilson?
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Syt

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 12:39:02 PM
Quote from: celedhring on December 23, 2016, 05:31:19 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 23, 2016, 05:28:56 AM
I thought I read that celebrities were giving him the cold shoulder with regards to the inauguration?

I read the tweet as "they're not giving me the cold shoulder, it's ME that I want DAH PIPOL instead"

Poor Syt is still reading Trump tweets as if they are stating facts.
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Syt

What a lovely letter from a dom to his sub. :wub:

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mongers

Quote from: Barrister on December 23, 2016, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 23, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
Where can I find odds and lay a bet that Trump will be the first* president to be replaced by the VP, because of declining mental fitness?

* I'm assuming this hasn't happened before?  :bowler:

It hasn't happened before, despite the fact that at least two sitting Presidents suffered from very serious declining mental fitness issues.

FDR and Wilson?

:huh:

I'd say Reagan would be a better fit, I don't see FDR in the frame, can't comment on Wilson.
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CountDeMoney

Of course you were thinking Reagan, DraftWarMongers.  You never left the Freeze movement.  #WeeniesOnWheels.

Barrister

Quote from: mongers on December 23, 2016, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 23, 2016, 12:48:39 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 23, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on December 23, 2016, 09:38:50 AM
Where can I find odds and lay a bet that Trump will be the first* president to be replaced by the VP, because of declining mental fitness?

* I'm assuming this hasn't happened before?  :bowler:

It hasn't happened before, despite the fact that at least two sitting Presidents suffered from very serious declining mental fitness issues.

FDR and Wilson?

:huh:

I'd say Reagan would be a better fit, I don't see FDR in the frame, can't comment on Wilson.

Oh Wilson definitely fits the bill (google and learn), I was more unsure about the other one.  And I was wondering if Minsky was thinking of Reagan, because most of what I've read says that is false (though later in life he did very obviously suffer from Alzheimers).  He may have started to have some memory lapses while in office, but that certainly isn't "very serious declining mental fitness issues".

FDR was more physical decline though.  So maybe some 19th century president.
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Lincolns mental capacity dropped sharply in the last part of his presidency.
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Wilson and Reagan

Not conclusive proof of the latter but a lot of smoke especially for the second term.  Reread his IC testimony.
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viper37

Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 22, 2016, 07:26:23 PM
Quote    Based on the tremendous cost and cost overruns of the Lockheed Martin F-35, I have asked Boeing to price-out a comparable F-18 Super Hornet!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 22, 2016
That'd be great if there was such a thing.  The Super Hornet doesn't compare to the F-35.  It might have been a mistake to use he same aircraft for Navy, Marines and AirForce.  The compromises to be made for VTOL might have been too much of a constraint, and might have contributed to raising the costs.

However, it is the most electronically advanced aircraft out there.  The F-18E would lose to any 5th Generation fighter, technically, it's considered a generation 4.5, and a stop gap measure by the Navy while waiting for the F-35.

In any case, I don't think the Airforce can wait any longer for a decent replacement to its F-15 and F-16.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: viper37 on December 23, 2016, 02:34:58 PM
\ The F-18E would lose to any 5th Generation fighter, technically, it's considered a generation 4.5, and a stop gap measure by the Navy while waiting for the F-35.

We don't need to win dogfights, we have nuclear weapons.
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MadImmortalMan

Quote from: Barrister on December 23, 2016, 01:41:17 PM

FDR was more physical decline though.  So maybe some 19th century president.

FDR had eleven martinis a day. He couldn't have been in top form most of the time.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: viper37 on December 23, 2016, 02:34:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 22, 2016, 07:26:23 PM
Quote    Based on the tremendous cost and cost overruns of the Lockheed Martin F-35, I have asked Boeing to price-out a comparable F-18 Super Hornet!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 22, 2016
That'd be great if there was such a thing.  The Super Hornet doesn't compare to the F-35.  It might have been a mistake to use he same aircraft for Navy, Marines and AirForce.  The compromises to be made for VTOL might have been too much of a constraint, and might have contributed to raising the costs.

However, it is the most electronically advanced aircraft out there.  The F-18E would lose to any 5th Generation fighter, technically, it's considered a generation 4.5, and a stop gap measure by the Navy while waiting for the F-35.

His tweet wasn't even about all that.  It was about kicking Lockheed in the nuts a bit in public, and rewarding Boeing with a market bounce for saying they'd play ball over Air Force One costs after he dinged them last week.  Caesar rewards as well as punishes.

QuoteIn any case, I don't think the Airforce can wait any longer for a decent replacement to its F-15 and F-16.

Luckily, the F-22 is still best thing flying out there.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: MadImmortalMan on December 23, 2016, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 23, 2016, 01:41:17 PM

FDR was more physical decline though.  So maybe some 19th century president.

FDR had eleven martinis a day. He couldn't have been in top form most of the time.

Well, at least he never had to worry about being a fall-down drunk.