What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Eddie Teach]

Don't know if Melania has any pull with Donald regarding policies, but I'm sure that she'd have a word on two about what happens when you let some Serbs run rampant. 

She's a slovene, whose people managed to escape Yugoslavia virtually unscathed by war.

I am not sure one had to be on the front line of the war to understand how terrible it was.

True, but then I don't understand why Melania would have anything particular to say about 'Serbs running rampant'.

She'd probably have followed it a lot more closely than most Americans.

[Barrister]

Don't know if Melania has any pull with Donald regarding policies, but I'm sure that she'd have a word on two about what happens when you let some Serbs run rampant. 

She's a slovene, whose people managed to escape Yugoslavia virtually unscathed by war.

I am not sure one had to be on the front line of the war to understand how terrible it was.

True, but then I don't understand why Melania would have anything particular to say about 'Serbs running rampant'.

She'd probably have followed it a lot more closely than most Americans.

Melania's early career is somewhat mysterious but by the early to mid 90s she was out of Slovenia and in Milan and Paris modelling.

[grumbler]

She'd probably have followed it a lot more closely than most Americans.

Melania's early career is somewhat mysterious but by the early to mid 90s she was out of Slovenia and in Milan and Paris modelling.

Don't Milan and Paris have newspapers, radio, and TV to allow her to follow the news from the balkans more closely than most Americans did?  Your response implies she somehow, due to location, couldn't follow events that would have affected her family, her friends, and her homeland.

[Barrister]

She'd probably have followed it a lot more closely than most Americans.

Melania's early career is somewhat mysterious but by the early to mid 90s she was out of Slovenia and in Milan and Paris modelling.

Don't Milan and Paris have newspapers, radio, and TV to allow her to follow the news from the balkans more closely than most Americans did?  Your response implies she somehow, due to location, couldn't follow events that would have affected her family, her friends, and her homeland.

Events didn't affect her family, her friends, her homeland.  From what I remember the Yugoslav army rumbled a few tanks through Slovenia for a few days, no one was hurt, then they left and Slovenia became independent a few months later.

[crazy canuck]

She'd probably have followed it a lot more closely than most Americans.

Melania's early career is somewhat mysterious but by the early to mid 90s she was out of Slovenia and in Milan and Paris modelling.

Don't Milan and Paris have newspapers, radio, and TV to allow her to follow the news from the balkans more closely than most Americans did?  Your response implies she somehow, due to location, couldn't follow events that would have affected her family, her friends, and her homeland.

Events didn't affect her family, her friends, her homeland.  From what I remember the Yugoslav army rumbled a few tanks through Slovenia for a few days, no one was hurt, then they left and Slovenia became independent a few months later.

I am not sure you fully appreciate the magnitude of the conflict nor how close what became the Slovenian border is to the fighting that did occur.  You have to remember the Serbs were fighting for the creation of a greater serbia.  I am not sure how Slovenia would escape from the creation of that state if the Serbs had succeeded nor I am sure how someone from the former Yugoslavia would have shrugged it off as being a minor concern.

[The Larch]

Don't know if Melania has any pull with Donald regarding policies, but I'm sure that she'd have a word on two about what happens when you let some Serbs run rampant. 

She's a slovene, whose people managed to escape Yugoslavia virtually unscathed by war.

I am not sure one had to be on the front line of the war to understand how terrible it was.

True, but then I don't understand why Melania would have anything particular to say about 'Serbs running rampant'.

The current Republika Sprska (the Bosnian Serbs) are basically the last remnants of Milosevic-era belicosity in the region (their current President even served in the parliament of the Milosevic-puppet incarnation of the Republika Sprska during the war, albeit in the oposition), and the ones that have being creating tension over there and stirring the pot. She should be able to recognize them for what they are, at the very least big troublemakers, at their worst, potential warmongers.

[grumbler]

Events didn't affect her family, her friends, her homeland.  From what I remember the Yugoslav army rumbled a few tanks through Slovenia for a few days, no one was hurt, then they left and Slovenia became independent a few months later.

So, your argument is that you know for sure that she had no family living outside Slovenia, that she had no friends living outside Slovenia, and that she considered only Slovenia to be her homeland, despite having grown up in Yugoslavia?

How, pray tell, do you know any of these things well enough to say that the average American followed events in the Yugoslav breakup about as much as she did?

[The Larch]

She'd probably have followed it a lot more closely than most Americans.

Melania's early career is somewhat mysterious but by the early to mid 90s she was out of Slovenia and in Milan and Paris modelling.

Don't Milan and Paris have newspapers, radio, and TV to allow her to follow the news from the balkans more closely than most Americans did?  Your response implies she somehow, due to location, couldn't follow events that would have affected her family, her friends, and her homeland.

Events didn't affect her family, her friends, her homeland.  From what I remember the Yugoslav army rumbled a few tanks through Slovenia for a few days, no one was hurt, then they left and Slovenia became independent a few months later.

It was a bit more than Yugoslav tanks rumbling around without harming anyone, it was a war. A short (it's even named the 10 Day War at wiki) and relatively bloodless one (63 killed, 328 wounded), but a war nonetheless. Slovenia got away with it because the Yugoslav army focused on Croatia instead, and Milosevic himself didn't care much for Slovenia personally.

[Zanza]

[Razgovory]

I am betting that isn't real.  For one thing, he doesn't really do commas.  Second, that's not his Twitter handle.

[Zanza]

That is Facebook and real.
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10161046691395725

[mongers]

Not sure what Barrister was trying to pull in this thread.

As comparison Northern Ireland's sectarian war was a small subset of the UK, 1.5 million people out of 55 million and yet it was still big news at times and one knew people affected by the killings and worried about part of the country breaking away or worse.

Slovenia represented a larger percentage of Yugoslavia, say 3 million out of 30 million, and the country only just avoided being dragged into the worst European ethnic conflict in 45 years. Yugoslavia fragmented like an old hand grenade and people are still dealing with the shrapnel wounds. I'm really struggling to see how these events wouldn't leave a significant impression on almost every citizen of the new country.

[Admiral Yi]

He's trying to pull the story that Slovenian independence was no big fucking deal.

[Razgovory]

That is Facebook and real.
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10161046691395725

Well, I'll be damned.

[garbon]

Perfect

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