What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[FunkMonk]

Burn the party to the ground and start over. The Republicans did it (against their will, possibly) and won bigly.

[Valmy]

That's 10 million Democratic voters who took a nap during the most important election of my life time.

Hillary was a really bad candidate, it turned out.

She really was. She drove me nuts. Every time it looked like she had it in the bag she would collapse/

[The Minsky Moment]

Burn the party to the ground and start over. The Republicans did it (against their will, possibly) and won bigly.

The election really doesn't move the needle much for the Democrats - their key problem before was their horrific performance in state legislature and governors races and that remains their problem.  Fix that and their talent pipeline and national issues can be remedied.

Somewhat paradoxically the election presents more of a structural challenge to the GOP because their animating philosophy since the late 70s - movement conservatism - took a huge blow from Trumpism.

[Valmy]

Burn the party to the ground and start over. The Republicans did it (against their will, possibly) and won bigly.

It has already started. The populist leftists, long dormant since the Clinton years, are soon going to be back. Things are about to really suck.

[Valmy]

Burn the party to the ground and start over. The Republicans did it (against their will, possibly) and won bigly.

The election really doesn't move the needle much for the Democrats - their key problem before was their horrific performance in state legislature and governors races and that remains their problem.  Fix that and their talent pipeline and national issues can be remedied.

Somewhat paradoxically the election presents more of a structural challenge to the GOP because their animating philosophy since the late 70s - movement conservatism - took a huge blow from Trumpism.

How is it they can be so competitive in the US Senate yet be so horrible with Governors? They are both statewide races.

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump's whole schtick was he was going to up-end the Establishment and bring new blood to DC

Meanwhile, the names that keep getting dropped for senior slots are two, tired 90s era retreads (Newt and Rudy), the longstanding chair of the Republican National Committee (Priebus), and Steve Mnuchin, a second generation Goldman Sachs banker whose father is a now prominent Upper East Side art gallery owner.

[mongers]

Trump's whole schtick was he was going to up-end the Establishment and bring new blood to DC

Meanwhile, the names that keep getting dropped for senior slots are two, tired 90s era retreads (Newt and Rudy), the longstanding chair of the Republican National Committee (Priebus), and Steve Mnuchin, a second generation Goldman Sachs banker whose father is a now prominent Upper East Side art gallery owner.

Sounds like you might have encountered one or both socially?   

[The Minsky Moment]

Sounds like you might have encountered one or both socially?   

Not personally, it's the sort of people one knows by reputation when one is an elitist East Coast liberal snob.  Not the sorts known for their deep affection for and connection with the Blue Mountain Ridge, Michigan's upper peninsula, or the denizens of Kenosha County.

(although some UP wine is actually pretty decent . . .)

[CountDeMoney]

Hillary was a really bad candidate, it turned out.

She really was. She drove me nuts. Every time it looked like she had it in the bag she would collapse/

Sorry, but that's a cop-out.  A "really bad candidate" is not an excuse to abrogate one's morality and decency.   

[Razgovory]

Hillary was a really bad candidate, it turned out.

She really was. She drove me nuts. Every time it looked like she had it in the bag she would collapse/

Sorry, but that's a cop-out.  A "really bad candidate" is not an excuse to abrogate one's morality and decency.   

Seemed good enough for the Bernie bros.

[CountDeMoney]

Seemed good enough for the Bernie bros.

Suicide bombers don't always detonate their vests or cars.

[Savonarola]

Sounds like you might have encountered one or both socially?   

Not personally, it's the sort of people one knows by reputation when one is an elitist East Coast liberal snob.  Not the sorts known for their deep affection for and connection with the Blue Mountain Ridge, Michigan's upper peninsula, or the denizens of Kenosha County.

(although some UP wine is actually pretty decent . . .)

There are a couple wineries in the upper peninsula; but the wines you've had are almost certainly from the northern edge of the lower peninsula.  The Leelanau and Old Mission Peninsulas wines are the ones that usually win awards and such.

[LaCroix]

the voters were all coming at it from different perspectives. blame the candidate, not the voters. that doesn't accomplish anything. as much as I like hillary, she just wasn't the right candidate for this election.

[CountDeMoney]

Sounds like you might have encountered one or both socially?   

Not personally, it's the sort of people one knows by reputation when one is an elitist East Coast liberal snob.  Not the sorts known for their deep affection for and connection with the Blue Mountain Ridge, Michigan's upper peninsula, or the denizens of Kenosha County.

(although some UP wine is actually pretty decent . . .)

So are have you decided if you're going to wear your star as a lapel pin, or along the lines of, say, a pocket kerchief?

[Admiral Yi]

the voters were all coming at it from different perspectives. blame the candidate, not the voters. that doesn't accomplish anything. as much as I like hillary, she just wasn't the right candidate for this election.

And out of those perspectives, only one made sense: keeping Trump out of the White House.