What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[crazy canuck]

Looks like the Rs actually got something major passed. Finally the Donald will be able to point to something yuge that happened in his Administration. I have to admit, the R record for incompetence in both Congress and the WH had me thinking even today that they would fuck it up bigly.

You could be forgiven for thinking that.

It's interesting though how the media narrative around Trump has shifted quickly from Literally Hitler at first to Incompetent Trump during the summer and now to Somewhat Effective But We Don't Like It at the end of the year.

What media are you watching?

[Razgovory]

4Chan.

[jimmy olsen]

We can only hope.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-democrats-wave-could-turn-into-a-flood/

DEC. 22, 2017 AT 5:51 AM

The Democrats' Wave Could Turn Into A Flood
By Harry Enten

Poll of the week
A new CNN survey released this week showed Democrats leading Republicans by an astounding 56 percent to 38 percent on the generic congressional ballot. That's an 18 percentage point lead among registered voters — a record-breaking result. No other survey taken in November or December in the year before a midterm has found the majority party in the House down by that much since at least the 1938 cycle (as far back as I have data).

And while the CNN poll is a bit of an outlier, the Democratic advantage in the FiveThirtyEight generic ballot aggregate is up to about 12 points, 49.6 percent to 37.4 percent. That average, like the CNN poll, also shows Republicans in worse shape right now than any other majority party at this point in the midterm cycle since at least the 1938 election.


House Republicans remain in a historically poor position
Average of generic congressional ballot polls in November and December in the year before the midterm election

POLLING AVERAGE
CYCLE MAJORITY PARTY MINORITY PARTY MARGIN
2018 37.4% 49.6% -12.2
2006 36.8 46.8 -10.0
1954 41.7 51.3 -9.7
2010 41.0 43.4 -2.4
2014 37.9 39.6 -1.7
1998 40.3 41.7 -1.3
1994 43.0 40.5 +2.5
2002 42.5 39.2 +3.3
1990 36.5 31.5 +5.0
1946 40.0 34.0 +6.0
1986* 43.0 36.0 +7.0
1938 56.0 44.0 +12.0
1970 51.0 38.0 +13.0
1982 53.0 40.0 +13.0
1950 44.0 30.0 +14.0
1958 55.5 37.5 +18.0
1966 57.0 36.0 +21.0
1978* 48.0 22.0 +26.0
1962 61.0 30.0 +31.0
1974* 58.0 26.0 +32.0
No polls were available for the 1942 cycle.
*No November or December polls were available in these cycles. Instead, the final poll from October in the year before the midterm is used.

So Democrats are up a lot. A lot a lot. But how might a lead this big manifest itself in 2018?

First, Democrats are probably favorites to win the House. Their current advantage is larger than the lead Republicans had at this point in the 1994 cycle, the lead Democrats held at this point in the 2006 cycle or the lead Republicans had at this point in the 2010 cycle. Those were all years when the minority party won control of the House. And a 12 percentage point Democratic advantage in the national House vote come next November would likely be more than enough for the House to flip again. I've previously calculated that the Democrats need to win the national House vote by 5.5 to 8 points to win the House.

You can see in the chart below just how many Republican seats could potentially be in danger given the current climate. Let's say only Republicans in seats with a partisan lean2 of more than 12 points in favor of Republicans are truly safe. (The idea being that Republicans would need that size of a cushion to withstand the Democrats' 12-point edge on the generic congressional ballot.) For fun, let's also look at how many seats have a Republican lean of less than or equal to +18 percentage points (as the CNN poll suggests are in play). Keep in mind that Democrats need to win 24 Republican-held seats to gain control of the House, assuming that Democrats don't lose any of their own seats.


There are 58 Republicans in seats with a partisan lean of +12 points Republican or less. This includes representatives like House Speaker Paul Ryan and Dave Brat (who took out Eric Cantor in 2014). There are an astronomical 103 seats that have a partisan lean of +18 Republican or less. This expanded list includes the highest-ranking woman in the House, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, and the longest-serving House member, Don Young.

Now, I'm not saying all or any of these particular Republicans will lose. Most incumbents win — even in wave elections. Indeed, incumbents tend to do better than the partisan lean of the district would suggest, though that effect has been getting smaller and is usually lessened in waves.

What I am saying, though, is that when the generic ballot is showing this large of a lead for one party, the playing field of competitive races also tends to be correspondingly huge. Consider the 2010 election, when Republicans won the national House vote by 7 percentage points. Heading into that election, there were 101 Democrat-held seats with a partisan lean of +7 Democratic or less. Republicans won 65 of them (or 64 percent).If Democrats were able to win 64 percent of the 58 currently Republican held seats with a partisan lean of +12 Republican or less, they would take 37 Republican-held seats in the 2018 election, more than enough to win the House.

We're still nearly a year away from the midterm elections, however. And voter preferences at this point can change dramatically by election day; the average difference between the congressional ballot at this point and the final result is about 9 percentage points. But most large shifts on the generic ballot from this point onward have occurred against the party that holds the White House.[URL='https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-democrats-wave-could-turn-into-a-flood/#fn-4']The only time the White House party gained more than 4 percentage points from now until the midterm was in 1974. That shift can probably can best be described as a regression to the mean, given that the Democrats held a 32 percentage point lead at this point in the cycle. In 1974, Democrats would still go on to win the largest margin in the national House vote in any midterm since 1938.

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Indeed, so far this year, Democrats have more than doubled their April generic ballot lead of 5 percentage points. The Democrats led by just 6.9 points when they lost the Georgia 6 special election. That indicates that the normal midterm trends are holding even in the age of President Trump.

Other polling nuggets

• 63 percent of voters told Quinnipiac University that the economy is good or excellent. That's a record high since Quinnipiac first asked that question in 2001.
  
• Most Americans, 73 percent, believe the world will be a less peaceful place in 2018, per Quinnipiac.
  
• A majority of Americans, 60 percent, say Trump's election to the presidency has made race relations in America worse, according to the Pew Research Center. Only 13 percent felt that way about Obama's election at this point in his term.
  
• The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds that 52 percent of Americans say they will "probably" or "definitely" vote for the Democratic candidate in the 2020 presidential election.
  
• Bill Clinton's unfavorable rating is up to 52 percent in Gallup polling. That's the highest it's been since 2001. Hillary Clinton's unfavorable rating has climbed to 61 percent, which is the worst Gallup has ever recorded for her.
  
• Democrat Phil Bredesen leads Republican Marsha Blackburn 42 percent to 40 percent in a Gravis Marketing poll of this potential 2018 Senate race in Tennessee.
  
• 72 percent of Americans told Gallup that the U.S. health care system is in crisis or has major problems. That's nearly equal to the 71 percent who felt that way in 2009, just before the Affordable Care Act was passed.
  
• Sen. John McCain holds a 54 percent favorable rating among all Americans in the latest CNN survey. His favorable rating among Republicans is slightly lower at 46 percent.
  
• Only 50 percent of Americans with Hispanic ancestry who have been in the U.S. for four generations or more identified themselves as Hispanic, according to the Pew Research Center. That compares with 97 percent of foreign born adults with Hispanic ancestry who say they are Hispanic.
  
• Just 19 percent of Americans said that "Die Hard" is a Christmas movie in a YouGov poll; 56 percent think it is not a Christmas movie.
  

Trump's job approval rating

After hitting an all-time low last week, Trump's job approval ratingstabilized at 37 percent, with a disapproval rating of 57.2 percent. Two weeks ago, Trump's approval rating was 37.3 percent, and his disapproval rating was 56.4 percent.

[Valmy]

Except they will not be voting for generic Democrats but actual ones and that can get dicey.

But maybe the Republicans have a few more Roy Moores in them.

I don't know. I could see the Democrats doing well in lots of these state elections but taking over either the House or Senate this cycle seems like a big hill to climb.

[11B4V]

Way too early to predict. Dems have plenty of time left to crap their pants.

[CountDeMoney]

Doesn't mean shit if people don't/can't/won't vote.

[mongers]

I'm beginning to see how some depressed people might be pushed over the edge by reading too many of Tim's meaningless polling posts.

[Admiral Yi]

I liked Timmy's article.

[Eddie Teach]

Mongers is depressed because he can't count to 100. 

Not enough toes.

[The Minsky Moment]

Interesting that strong majorities think the economy is doing great, and also think Trump is doing a lousy job.  This tends to confirm a theory of mine . . .

Pro Trump people on talking head shows are always pounding talking points on the strong economy as if that should convince people to support Trump.  And Trump himself is always banging on about this, usually in terms of the stock market.  Because he's a doofus.

It's true that the incumbent President tends to get good support when the economy is strong.  But not I think because people credit the President directly.  Rather, when things are going relatively well, people don't want to rock the boat.  There is a bias to the status quo that benefits the incumbent President.

But that works only for normal Presidents.  Trump doesn't act like a serene captain on calm waters, he acts as the principal insurgent force against his own government.  He's a pirate in the admiralty.  Rocking the boat is his SOP.  Trump's whole play is that he is a massive disrupter to deal with CARNAGE and DISASTER but jobs are up and wages are up and the markets are up, and that just makes him a bull in the china shop. 

[Camerus]

I think at this point that, among educated Trump supporters, the inauguration-era CARNAGE and DISASTER shtick is understood to have been more lip service for the proles, tolerated for the supposedly biz-friendly agenda the Trumpenführer is enacting. Or understood less cynically through a Reaganite true believer lense (and I think there are still a decent number of these), the C&D is now being peeled back thru tax cuts and deregulation.

Fact is the economy *is* doing well and the 2017 stock market has been phenomenal. Does Trump deserve any credit at all for that? It's debatable, but certainly historically common to credit the prez with good economic performance - a fact emphasized in Trump's particular case given his constantly advertised economic bona fides that have possibly inspired investor confidence since November. And whatever one feels the recent tax cut, it was a substantial piece of economic legislation - hardly just a piece of legislation from a flailing bull in a china shop, but rather one that is actively and assertively legislating. 

That being said, the man's frequent eruptions and counterproductive feuds and tirades certainly conform to the narrative of the economy succeeding in spite of the White House...

[CountDeMoney]

But that works only for normal Presidents.  Trump doesn't act like a serene captain on calm waters, he acts as the principal insurgent force against his own government.  He's a pirate in the admiralty.  Rocking the boat is his SOP.  Trump's whole play is that he is a massive disrupter to deal with CARNAGE and DISASTER but jobs are up and wages are up and the markets are up, and that just makes him a bull in the china shop.

It takes time to turn the battleship.  It will take time to sink it, too.

[CountDeMoney]

What a Magnificent Piece of Shit, Episode 1073

[11B4V]

What a Magnificent Piece of Shit, Episode 1073

[Admiral Yi]

Check out the big brain on Camerus.