What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[crazy canuck]

The scary thing is that while the other news networks were talking about the Russia investigation, Fox News (sic) was talking about the need to go to war with N. Korea.  And we know who Trump listens to.

[Jacob]

Didn't know she had a new book out. Nice of you to advertise it for her derspiess.

[derspiess]

Almost got it right

[The Minsky Moment]

The derspiessers don't get it.  Their party is gone.  Whatever you say about Trump's business acumen, he pulled off one of the greatest hostile takeovers in political history.  The party of Lincoln is now the Party of Trump.  He owns it lock stock and barrel.  He consistently polls 80% of party voters, every Republican who dares cross him is either leaving politics or dying.

I didn't care much for the old Republican Party but it served a legitimate purpose, it stood for something. It might bend the rules of the political game but even in the darkest days of Gingrich it didn't break them. 

The Party of Trump is a clusterfuck.  It is an overt manifestation of Hofstadter's paranoid style, it traffics in the most ludicrous black propaganda, it flirts openly with the worse sorts of racist scum, it encourages its supporters to vilify half the country as enemies of the people, it seeks to intimidate the media, it repudiates productive intercourse with the world in the name of hyper-nationalism.  It has little to do with the Republican Party of Reagan/Bush/Dole/McCain/Romney/etc.  Rather it models itself on the soft fascist parties of Europe: Orban's Fidesz, Poland's Law and Justice Party, Erdogan's regime in Turkey, and of course the granddaddy of them all, Putin's Russia.   

Yi gets it.  TrumpGOP is an alien force in American politics, a cancer that must be excised if normal politics and political competition can be resumed.  But most Republicans don't get it, they are some form of denial.  The Hillary stuff is a litmus test.  It's so painfully transparent that Hillary is being raised as a bogeyman to distract, even a child can see it.  But Trump and his people know all they have to do is hit the knee in the right place, and it will jerk on cue.

[derspiess]

The derspiessers don't get it.  Their party is gone.  Whatever you say about Trump's business acumen, he pulled off one of the greatest hostile takeovers in political history.  The party of Lincoln is now the Party of Trump.  He owns it lock stock and barrel.  He consistently polls 80% of party voters, every Republican who dares cross him is either leaving politics or dying.

He owns the GOP until he leaves office. 

[Oexmelin]

You think things are going to be left intact?

[The Minsky Moment]

He owns the GOP until he leaves office.

See what I mean.  Denial.

[HVC]

The derspiessers don't get it.  Their party is gone.  Whatever you say about Trump's business acumen, he pulled off one of the greatest hostile takeovers in political history.  The party of Lincoln is now the Party of Trump.  He owns it lock stock and barrel.  He consistently polls 80% of party voters, every Republican who dares cross him is either leaving politics or dying.

He owns the GOP until he leaves office. 

He's there because of what the GOP is becoming (become?). He's not the cause he's the symptom.

[frunk]

He owns the GOP until he leaves office.

Trump didn't drop out of the clouds into the presidency.  There are plenty of people willing to pull the same levers that he's shown can be pulled in the next election cycle, particularly when there is media willing to support them regardless of how odious their positions are.

[The Minsky Moment]

Look at what Bannon and his people are doing.  They are taking out the straights one by one and replacing them with Roy Moore types.  Seven more years of Trump and the party will be unrecognizable.

[crazy canuck]

The derspiessers don't get it.  Their party is gone.  Whatever you say about Trump's business acumen, he pulled off one of the greatest hostile takeovers in political history.  The party of Lincoln is now the Party of Trump.  He owns it lock stock and barrel.  He consistently polls 80% of party voters, every Republican who dares cross him is either leaving politics or dying.

He owns the GOP until he leaves office.

And when he leaves office, what becomes of the politicians who are being elected under the Trump banner?  Do they to go away or do you think it more likely that they will continue to emulate what Trump has done and is doing.  Do you really think they will disavow the politics that got them where they are?  They may not be as crass or dumb as Trump but there is a considerable risk the politics will be the same, or worse, more extreme.

[Barrister]

Look at what Bannon and his people are doing.  They are taking out the straights one by one and replacing them with Roy Moore types.  Seven more years of Trump and the party will be unrecognizable.

We'll see how successful they are though.  Roy Moore's election was much like Trump's - he was already well known as being the "Ten Commandments" judge going back to the mid-90s. In 2016 several of the primary challengers to prominant Republicans went nowhere.

[crazy canuck]

Look at what Bannon and his people are doing.  They are taking out the straights one by one and replacing them with Roy Moore types.  Seven more years of Trump and the party will be unrecognizable.

We'll see how successful they are though.  Roy Moore's election was much like Trump's - he was already well known as being the "Ten Commandments" judge going back to the mid-90s. In 2016 several of the primary challengers to prominant Republicans went nowhere.

Bannon is backed by big money.  That is what is scaring off all the rational republicans.

[Barrister]

Look at what Bannon and his people are doing.  They are taking out the straights one by one and replacing them with Roy Moore types.  Seven more years of Trump and the party will be unrecognizable.

We'll see how successful they are though.  Roy Moore's election was much like Trump's - he was already well known as being the "Ten Commandments" judge going back to the mid-90s. In 2016 several of the primary challengers to prominant Republicans went nowhere.

Bannon is backed by big money.  That is what is scaring off all the rational republicans.

I'm less than impressed by Bannon.  He jumped on Moore's bandwagon when Moore was already leading in the polls.

[crazy canuck]

Look at what Bannon and his people are doing.  They are taking out the straights one by one and replacing them with Roy Moore types.  Seven more years of Trump and the party will be unrecognizable.

We'll see how successful they are though.  Roy Moore's election was much like Trump's - he was already well known as being the "Ten Commandments" judge going back to the mid-90s. In 2016 several of the primary challengers to prominant Republicans went nowhere.

Bannon is backed by big money.  That is what is scaring off all the rational republicans.

I'm less than impressed by Bannon.  He jumped on Moore's bandwagon when Moore was already leading in the polls.

I doubt republicans thinking about whether to take on the interests Bannon represents are considering Bannon's lack of appeal in Canada.