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Started by Berkut, October 12, 2016, 01:12:02 PM

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grumbler

#15
October 14, 2016, 11:13:35 AM
Time magazine had a line that I thought hit the nail in reference to republican response to the tape:
QuoteThe tape was catalytic not because it showed a new Trump but because it made clear that the old Trump is the only Trump this election is going to see.

No one was surprised at the contents of the tape (Trump has made such boasts before, though less graphically in public), but his response (blanket denial in most cases, with a specific "she's too ugly to be credible" for one case where he thought he could get away with it) appears to be making the wives of GOP officials force their husbands to drop him.

I'm loving the fact that those who have dropped their support now have the enmity of the "right wing" lunatics that make up his base.  They were the frog that gave the scorpion a ride.
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Razgovory

#16
October 14, 2016, 02:57:40 PM
Ideal timing would have been January of last year.  The real problem is a lack of investigative reporting.  The tax form thing was a result of someone sending the NYTs a copy of the forms.  The video tapes are a result of someone finally getting the bright idea of going into the basement and looking at what Trump said in numerous recorded interviews.  The Press gave Trump free, positive exposure for over a year.  More than any other Republican candidate.  If they had done their job this stuff would have destroyed Trump months ago, and the GOP would have a sane candidate.
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Berkut

#17
October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.

Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.
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Barrister

#18
October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.

Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.

Disagree.

Say what you will about Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb!, or on the other side Bernie Saunders - but they're all competent politicians with varying resumes of public service.  Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.

Trump does not.  He seems entirely unsuited to hold office.
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Malthus

#19
October 14, 2016, 03:22:30 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.

Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.

Disagree.

Say what you will about Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb!, or on the other side Bernie Saunders - but they're all competent politicians with varying resumes of public service.  Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.

Trump does not.  He seems entirely unsuited to hold office.

The other side of that though is that President Trump would spend his whole time tweeting inanely, goosing random women, and gilding the White House, rather than doing any actual governing - so there is, in theory, less active damage he could do. 
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Razgovory

#20
October 14, 2016, 04:41:19 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.

Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.

If Trump was out before the Iowa caucus there is no telling who would have won.  It's such a large number of votes that are freed up, you can not make a realistic guess as to where those votes would fall.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

garbon

#21
October 14, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.

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Habbaku

#22
October 14, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
Yeah, garb, I have no idea who "Saunders" is either.
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garbon

#23
October 14, 2016, 05:18:38 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on October 14, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
Yeah, garb, I have no idea who "Saunders" is either.

I just posted a picture of her. :)
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mongers

#24
October 14, 2016, 06:26:40 PM
Trump tape sounds like something police would use to cordon off the area around a noxious gas leak.
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Berkut

#25
October 15, 2016, 10:11:19 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.

Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.

Disagree.

Say what you will about Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb!, or on the other side Bernie Saunders - but they're all competent politicians with varying resumes of public service.  Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.

Trump does not.  He seems entirely unsuited to hold office.

I didn't say he was less competent, I said he was potentially more dangerous.


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