Mother Theresa was...

[HVC]

Does he even have access back here in game backroom?

[The Brain]

Why was the thread locked/moved? Some deleted posts?

[Jacob]

Why was the thread locked/moved? Some deleted posts?

Pure shenanigans.

[The Brain]

Why was the thread locked/moved? Some deleted posts?

Pure shenanigans.

Are mod shenanigans very productive at this point in the Languish life cycle?

[garbon]

Well Seed hasn't any offspring but Jacob does.

[CountDeMoney]

While I can appreciate the board's hostility against religion--particularly by our professionally cynical European Balls of Light--and as much as everyone would love to foster and nurture Marti's alt-right hate memes all day, we're keeping a cap on them.  Enough regular posters have left as it is--and you just can't blame them all on me.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

While I can appreciate the board's hostility against religion--particularly by our professionally cynical European Balls of Light--and as much as everyone would love to foster and nurture Marti's alt-right hate memes all day, we're keeping a cap on them.  Enough regular posters have left as it is--and you just can't blame them all on me.

Even though this is coming from Marty, it isn't just some "alt-right hate meme".  Beeb's version is the more charitable interpretation; here's the less charitable version from that hotbed of alt-right Trumptruppen, Patheos (including the video Hami linked).  The alt-right may have (unfortunately) glommed on to this, but this has been an issue for secular humanists for decades.  My wife and I personally come down between 3 and 4, rounded to 3, in Marty's poll.

[CountDeMoney]

Hey, you want to pick on a dead nun, be my guest.  I thnk even secular humanists have more important shit to do, like assfucking the Dali Lama or something.

[celedhring]

While I can appreciate the board's hostility against religion--particularly by our professionally cynical European Balls of Light--and as much as everyone would love to foster and nurture Marti's alt-right hate memes all day, we're keeping a cap on them.  Enough regular posters have left as it is--and you just can't blame them all on me.

Even though this is coming from Marty, it isn't just some "alt-right hate meme".  Beeb's version is the more charitable interpretation; here's the less charitable version from that hotbed of alt-right Trumptruppen, Patheos (including the video Hami linked).  The alt-right may have (unfortunately) glommed on to this, but this has been an issue for secular humanists for decades.  My wife and I personally come down between 3 and 4, rounded to 3, in Marty's poll.

Interesting article... I was aware of her relationship with pretty unsavory individuals, but not the shenanigans around her missions' "treatment" of the poor.

My late grannie idolized her. Pity.

[The Brain]

Hey, you want to pick on a dead nun, be my guest.  I thnk even secular humanists have more important shit to do, like assfucking the Dali Lama or something.

Is he the one with one 10 ft buttock (with a wooden support) and one normal? Could make it hard.

[garbon]

While I can appreciate the board's hostility against religion--particularly by our professionally cynical European Balls of Light--and as much as everyone would love to foster and nurture Marti's alt-right hate memes all day, we're keeping a cap on them.  Enough regular posters have left as it is--and you just can't blame them all on me.

Even though this is coming from Marty, it isn't just some "alt-right hate meme".  Beeb's version is the more charitable interpretation; here's the less charitable version from that hotbed of alt-right Trumptruppen, Patheos (including the video Hami linked).  The alt-right may have (unfortunately) glommed on to this, but this has been an issue for secular humanists for decades.  My wife and I personally come down between 3 and 4, rounded to 3, in Marty's poll.

Interesting article... I was aware of her relationship with pretty unsavory individuals, but not the shenanigans around her missions' "treatment" of the poor.

My late grannie idolized her. Pity.

Probably a good idea to actually look at other sources to get details. Patheos seems to be a blog that likes to spin, spin, spin. Probably a waste of time to read anything they have to say, even if they happen to be on the spot.

[Barrister]

While I can appreciate the board's hostility against religion--particularly by our professionally cynical European Balls of Light--and as much as everyone would love to foster and nurture Marti's alt-right hate memes all day, we're keeping a cap on them.  Enough regular posters have left as it is--and you just can't blame them all on me.

Even though this is coming from Marty, it isn't just some "alt-right hate meme".  Beeb's version is the more charitable interpretation; here's the less charitable version from that hotbed of alt-right Trumptruppen, Patheos (including the video Hami linked).  The alt-right may have (unfortunately) glommed on to this, but this has been an issue for secular humanists for decades.  My wife and I personally come down between 3 and 4, rounded to 3, in Marty's poll.

That Patheos article really just repeats and regurgitates the complaints from Chritopher Hitchens article of several years ago (though it at least has the courtesy to cite it).

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2003/10/mommie_dearest.html

Much/most of his complaints really just boil down to disagreements with religion and catholicism, damning her for daring to believe in what catholics say they believe in.  What he ignores of course is that she really did take a vow of poverty throughout her entire life.  She was no champagne socialist attending $1000/plate fundraisers to help the poor - she really was in the front lines her entire life.

[Berkut]

Much/most of his complaints really just boil down to disagreements with religion and catholicism, damning her for daring to believe in what catholics say they believe in.  What he ignores of course is that she really did take a vow of poverty throughout her entire life.  She was no champagne socialist attending $1000/plate fundraisers to help the poor - she really was in the front lines her entire life.

There is certainly an element of that (and it is a fair complaint in any case), but there is certainly much more to it than just a straight up disagreement with religion in general. There is an element of how you, in practical terms, implement religious views and how they drive behavior that matters.

In this case, her particular religious views resulted in the deaths of a lot of people. She might have been well meaning, in that she felt that their deaths were actually of benefit to them, but it is the case that others with her basic religious views can and have taken a more nuanced approach that avoids the problems with her fundamentalist views that damned thousands? Tens of thousands? Hundreds of thousands? to a life of abject misery, poverty, and death.

Throwing gays guys off buildings is not any more palatable because the people tossing them think they are doing a good thing.

Denying poor people birth control with the inevitable and completely understood results is not more palatable because she believes that a child born into abject poverty who dies at a young age after a short, miserable life from some preventable disease is preferable to that child (and the several others who contributed to the lack of adequate resources) not being conceived to begin with.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Mother Teresa might be the best example of that cliché, ever.

[The Brain]

Whatever she did she has the complete and utter endorsement of the contemporary Catholic Church. If you criticize Mother Teresa you criticize Catholicism.

[frunk]

The biggest surprise is that Marti thinks that she's still alive.