Brazilian congress votes to impeach president Dilma Rousseff

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celedhring

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 18, 2016, 05:43:40 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 18, 2016, 05:26:24 AM
I was offered a job to consult on a Brazilian telenovela once. I don't know why I didn't accept.

Pre-silicon boobs era of Brazilian telenovelas?

It was 4 years ago. Dunno how that fits in the Brazilian telenovela historical record :P

Norgy

Quote from: Martinus on April 18, 2016, 05:27:18 AM
Has Lula really been that good for Brazil though? He has been a capable populist, I'll give you that...

Everyone has a price in Brazil.

I guess Lula's biggest achievement was being a socialist and raising millions out of dirt-poor conditions. And like others say, lining his own pockets on the way.

Brazil's history is a rather sad one except for football. One of their greats, Garrincha, was illiterate, and just plain stupid. He also had a bad limp. That didn't stop him from being the player that won the 1962 World Cup. Pelé was injured, yet this little alcoholic retard scored and scored. He died from liver failure, I think. And never remembered the name of the opposing side. It was just "them" to him.

A friend of mine when I was studying English went to Brazil for the carneval in Rio. He and his friends tried to score some drugs. It ended up being a very rapey experience near the Christo Redentor statue from the local police. Another friend of mine made movies about trout fishing in Tiera de la Fuego. After having been robbed badly and beaten up in Buenos Aires. The air didn't quite agree with him.

South America is lovely at its best, and has probably the best looking people in the world, but it's also madly corrupt from north to south and incredibly violent.
In spite of all that, I'd actually consider retiring there. I am blond and white-skinned, so I could probably live in some rural village with the nazis.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: celedhring on April 18, 2016, 05:44:45 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on April 18, 2016, 05:43:40 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 18, 2016, 05:26:24 AM
I was offered a job to consult on a Brazilian telenovela once. I don't know why I didn't accept.

Pre-silicon boobs era of Brazilian telenovelas?

It was 4 years ago. Dunno how that fits in the Brazilian telenovela historical record :P

Silicon boobs era then. Caliga is weeping. :(

Valmy

Quote from: Norgy on April 18, 2016, 05:56:16 AM
I'd actually consider retiring there. I am blond and white-skinned, so I could probably live in some rural village with the nazis.


You can also hang out with the un-reconstructed Confederates.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

garbon

Though we seem to have stopped caring about Brazil now that the Olympics are over...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/31/dilma-rousseff-impeached-president-brazilian-senate-michel-temer

QuoteBrazil's Dilma Rousseff impeached by senate in crushing defeat

Brazil's first female president Dilma Rousseff has been thrown out of office by the country's corruption-tainted senate after a gruelling impeachment trial that ends 13 years of Workers' party rule.

Following a crushing 61 to 20 defeat in the upper house, she will be replaced for the remaining two years and four months of her term by Michel Temer, a centre-right patrician who was among the leaders of the campaign against his former running mate.

In a separate vote, the senate voted 42 to 36 not to bar Rousseff from public office for eight years.

In his first address to the nation after being sworn in by Congress last night, Temer said it was time to unite the country, vowing to work to rescue an economy mired in recession and guarantee political stability for foreign investors.

Rousseff was defiant after being ousted. "They think they've defeated us, but they're wrong," she said from her official residency, her voice cracking and eyes moist with emotion. "I know we will all fight."

Despite never losing an election, Rousseff – who first won power in 2010 – had seen her support among the public and in congress diminish as a result of a sharp economic decline, government paralysis and a massive bribery scandal that has implicated almost all the major parties.


For more than 10 months, the leftist leader fought efforts to impeach her for frontloading funds for government social programmes and issuing spending budget decrees without congressional approval ahead of her reelection in 2014. The opposition claimed that these constituted a "crime of responsibility". Rousseff denies this and claims the charges – which were never levelled at previous administrations who did the same thing – have been trumped up by opponents who were unable to accept the Workers' party's victory.

Speaking to her supporters from the presidential palace after the vote, Rousseff pledged to appeal her impeachment, which she called a parliamentary coup. The ousted president also called on her supporters to fight the conservative agenda now bolstered by her removal from office.

"Right now, I will not say goodbye to you. I am certain I can say, 'See you soon,'" she told supporters in Brasilia.

In keeping with her pledge to fight until the end for the 54 million voters who put her in office, Rousseff – a former Marxist guerrilla – ended her presidency this week with a gritty 14-hour defence of her government's achievements and a sharply worded attack on the "usurpers" and "coup-mongers" who ejected her from power without an election.

Her lawyer, José Eduardo Cardozo, said the charges were trumped up to punish the president's support for a huge corruption investigation that has snared many of Brazil's elite. This follows secret recordings of Romero Jucá, the majority leader of the senate and a key Temer ally, plotting to remove the president to halt the Lava Jato (car wash) investigation into kickbacks at state oil company Petrobras.

While Rousseff was in the upper chamber, her critics heard her in respectful silence. But in a final session in her absence on Tuesday, they lined up to condemn her. As in an earlier lower house impeachment debate, the senators – many of whom are accused of far greater crimes – clearly revelled in the spotlight of their ten-minute declarations. Reflecting the growing power of rightwing evangelism, many invoked the name of God. One cited Winston Churchill. Another sang. Another appeared to be in tears.

"I apologise to the president, not for having done what did, because I could not have done anything else, but because I know her situation is not easy," claimed a sobbing Janaína Paschoal, one of the original co-authors of the impeachment petition. "I think she understands I did all this in consideration of her grandchildren."

The result was never in doubt, though Workers' party figurehead and former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva – who also faces a trial of his own – had lobbied hard until the last moment to try to swing enough senators to avoid impeachment.

At the end of the marathon 16-hour session of speeches, the final nail was hammered in by the former Brazilian footballer Romário, who had been rumoured to be among the few senators who might change their minds and save the president. Instead, he wound up the debate by confirming that he would once again vote for impeachment. "It's a sad moment when you decide to remove a president," he told the chamber. However he said he was convinced that Rousseff had committed a crime of responsibility.

Ahead of the verdict, senator Vanessa Grazziotin, of the Communist Party of Brazil, arrived with a sense of resignation. "I've worn a mixture of red [for the Workers' party] and black because today is a day of mourning," she said. "I'm going to cry." However, she and other Rousseff allies hoped they could minimise Rousseff's punishment.

Workers' party senator Lindbergh Farias said the president's accusers were cowards. "It's amazing how everyone who didn't have the gall to look Dilma in the eyes, spoke so bravely today in her absence," he tweeted.

The final result was comfortably more than the two-thirds (54 seats) needed to finalise the president's removal from office.

Shortly after 1.30pm, suspense filled the floor as senators watched as the upper house reached a quorum. Among the last to vote was the Workers Party's Jorge Viana as a hush fell across the packed room. There were cheers of "Brazil!" from the pro-impeachment camp as the numbers flashed up on the screen before a group of senators burst into a rendition of the national anthem.

There were modest exchanges of "congratulations" and backslapping between impeachment supporters as Jucá, who was drawn into the Lava Jato corruption scandal, said he was "relieved" by the result.

Edison Lobao, of the PMDB, who voted for Rousseff's ouster, said: "I couldn't have voted differently regardless of who was the president. I would have voted for the impeachment of any president who acted outside the law."

The musician and democracy activist Chico Buarque, who was among Rousseff's supporters in the gallery, said the debate was rigged against her. "If the game were clean, she would have won," he told local media.

Others noted that Rousseff's removal from office less than halfway through her mandate reinforced the impression that the country's political class remains uncomfortable with democracy although more than 30 years have passed since the end of Brazil's military dictatorship. Only two of the last eight directly-elected presidents have completed their terms. Two have been impeached, one removed in a military coup, one killed himself, one died before taking power and another resigned.

It also marks a dramatic downfall of a woman who was once one of the world's most popular politicians with approval ratings of 85%. But she had struggled with a hostile congress and a dire financial climate. When Rousseff took office in January 2011, the economy was growing at a quarterly clip of 4.9%. It has been downhill ever since and she leaves the presidency with output shrinking by 4.6% though this is partly because the price of Brazil's oil exports is now below half of its peak in 2011.

Rousseff's achievements in office were mainly an expansion of equality policies put in place by her predecessors, particularly the bolsa familia poverty relief program, which now reaches almost 14 million households.

Thanks to affirmative action and wider access to higher education, university enrolments jumped 18% during her first term. Since 2009, 2.6 million homes have been delivered by the government housing program – Minha Casa Minha Vida. But her record in other key areas is mixed. After falling in her first two years in power, deforestation of the Amazon has started to rise again. Her replacement has a lot to do.

Temer – who was widely criticised for appointing an all-male, all-white cabinet when he took power on an interim basis in May – was sworn in again on Wednesday afternoon and is set to continue until the next presidential election in 2018, when he has promised he will not stand.

After being sworn in, Temer promised a "new era" for Brazil during a televised cabinet meeting.

"From today on, the expectations are much higher for the government. I hope that in these two years and four months, we do what we have declared – put Brazil back on track," he said. Regarding his upcoming trip to China, he said it was important to show that stability had returned. "We are traveling precisely to reveal to the world that we have political and legal stability," he said. "We have to show that there is hope in the country."

Temer received support from the United States, which implicitly rejected claims that Rousseff had been removed in a coup. US State Department spokesman, John Kirby said, "We are confident we will continue our strong bilateral relationship. This was a decision made by the Brazilian people and obviously we respect that ... Brazilian democratic institutions have acted within its constitutional framework."

Shortly after the ceremony, he is due to fly to China to attend the G20 summit in Hangzhou, where he will hope to restore some of the credibility of an administration that has been battered by accusations of treachery and three ministerial resignations due to corruption scandals.

He has promised to introduce austerity measures that will restore Brazil's credit ratings, which under Rousseff fell to junk levels. This is popular with investors, but not with the public. His approval ratings are only a fraction above those of his predecessor and he was roundly booed during the Olympic opening ceremony.

During the final stages of the senate trial, there was no repeat of the mass rallies in Brasilia that marked earlier stages of the process. However, a small group of Rousseff supporters staged a candlelit vigil in the main esplanade. Bigger protests have been seen in other cities this week. In São Paulo anti-impeachment protesters and riot police clashed on Monday night. Demonstrators claim the security forces made excessive use of tear gas and percussion grenades in what they fear will be a precursor of more clampdowns on opposition. Police claimed the protesters – many from the Landless Workers' Movement – blocked roads and detonated a home-made bomb.
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The Larch

The fact that Temer looks like a cross between Monty Burns and a cardboard cutout villain from an 80s action flick doesn't help things.



Excelente...

Caliga

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Hamilcar

I don't really care what happens in Brazil one way or the other.

Valmy

Quote from: Hamilcar on September 01, 2016, 11:37:55 AM
I don't really care what happens in Brazil one way or the other.

I do. Only one country in South America is allowed to completely melt down at any one time.

But seriously though. Brazil is one of the most important countries in this hemisphere.
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derspiess

Quote from: The Larch on September 01, 2016, 05:49:04 AM
The fact that Temer looks like a cross between Monty Burns and a cardboard cutout villain from an 80s action flick doesn't help things.

Plus his name is-- Temer  :ph34r:  :lol:
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