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Started by mongers, August 04, 2016, 08:32:57 AM

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mongers

Might I suggest this thread for acts of terror or terrorism that involve only a handful of injuries or fatalities?

Last night an American tourist Russell Square London was knifed to death:

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Reuters UK 
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London assistant police commissioner says man detained over knife attacks was a Norwegian national of Somali origin.

11:55 AM - 4 Aug 2016

:hmm:


edit:
More details here:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36972126
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Martinus


dps

Quote from: Martinus on August 04, 2016, 09:27:08 AM
Those goddamn Norwegians.

Launching murderous attacks in Britain since the 8th century.

Hamilcar


Valmy

It is the Flemish! Time for a final solution to the Flemish menace.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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mongers

Quote from: Hamilcar on August 06, 2016, 10:41:46 AM

Belgian police attacked with machete in Charleroi
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36998449?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Sadly, we will never know what motivated this attack.

Good use made of the thread; these little attacks will probably keep this thread ticking over 'nicely'.
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Sheilbh

Russell Square wasn't terrorism as far as the police are concerned they've found no evidence of any interest in that.

However judge's sentencing remarks of the man who murdered Asad Shah for being Ahmadi:
http://www.scotland-judiciary.org.uk/8/1639/HMA-v-Tanveer-Ahmed

Bradford Mosque of course called for a blasphemy law in response :bleeding:

I think there's a lot more we need to do to protect the Ahmadi and stop this hatred spreading over from Pakistan - it's horrible what they go through because the few I've known have been some of the nicest most admirable people I've met.
Let's bomb Russia!

Hamilcar

Rabbi stabbed by man shouting "Allah Akbar!"

https://www.rt.com/news/356472-france-rabbi-stab-strasbourg/

Sadly, we will never know the motive.

Martinus

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Quote from: Sheilbh on August 10, 2016, 10:55:55 AM
Russell Square wasn't terrorism as far as the police are concerned they've found no evidence of any interest in that.

However judge's sentencing remarks of the man who murdered Asad Shah for being Ahmadi:
http://www.scotland-judiciary.org.uk/8/1639/HMA-v-Tanveer-Ahmed

Bradford Mosque of course called for a blasphemy law in response :bleeding:

I think there's a lot more we need to do to protect the Ahmadi and stop this hatred spreading over from Pakistan - it's horrible what they go through because the few I've known have been some of the nicest most admirable people I've met.

Good judgement from the judge. :thumbsup:

And yes, these are the people we should be protecting. When people like Tyr or Jacob talk about negotiating with ISIS, or leaving them alone to control the Middle East - we are effectively sentencing people like this to death.

Edit: And after such shit move by the Bradford Mosque, they should be subject to some retaliatory action. Nothing illegal - maybe a detailed tax control, or sanitary check or what have you. I am sure the authorities can come up with a good excuse.

Martinus

Quote from: Hamilcar on August 19, 2016, 06:22:10 AM
Rabbi stabbed by man shouting "Allah Akbar!"

https://www.rt.com/news/356472-france-rabbi-stab-strasbourg/

Sadly, we will never know the motive.

Some comments under the article are "interesting".  :yuk:

Hamilcar

Timely piece by Sam Harris on "What Jihadis Really Want"
https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-do-jihadists-really-want

Straight from the source.

Berkut

Quote from: Hamilcar on August 19, 2016, 06:33:34 AM
Timely piece by Sam Harris on "What Jihadis Really Want"
https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-do-jihadists-really-want

Straight from the source.

An excellent podcast.

It is rather ironic - the jihadis could not have done a better job proving the point people like Harris has been making for the last decade if they had asked Harris to write the article himself.

"They hate us for our freedom". A seemingly trite, silly statement that actually is an almost perfect summation of exactly why they do in fact hate us.
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Quote from: Berkut on August 19, 2016, 08:50:05 AM
Quote from: Hamilcar on August 19, 2016, 06:33:34 AM
Timely piece by Sam Harris on "What Jihadis Really Want"
https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-do-jihadists-really-want

Straight from the source.

An excellent podcast.

It is rather ironic - the jihadis could not have done a better job proving the point people like Harris has been making for the last decade if they had asked Harris to write the article himself.

"They hate us for our freedom". A seemingly trite, silly statement that actually is an almost perfect summation of exactly why they do in fact hate us.

ISIS has an English-language publication with an article on that very subject.

QuoteShortly following the blessed attack on a sodomite, Crusader nightclub by the mujahid Omar Matee, American politicians were quick to jump into the spotlight and denounce the shooting, declaring it a hate crime, an act of terrorism, and an act of senseless violence. A hate crime? Yes. Muslims undoubtedly hate liberalist sodomites, as does anyone else with any shred of their fitrah (inborn human nature) still intact. An act of terrorism? Most definitely. Muslims have been commanded to terrorize the disbelieving enemies of Allah. But an act of senseless violence? One would think that the average Westerner, by now, would have abandoned the tired claim that the actions of the mujahidin – who have repeatedly stated their goals, intentions, and motivations – don't make sense. Unless you truly – and naively – believe that the crimes of the West against Islam and the Muslims, whether insulting the Prophet g, burning the Quran, or waging war against the Caliphate, won't prompt brutal retaliation from the mujahidin, you know full well that the likes of the attacks carried out by Omar Mateen, Larossi Aballa, and many others before and after them in revenge for Islam and the Muslims make complete sense. The only thing senseless would be for there to be no violent, fierce retaliation in the first place!

Many Westerners, however, are already aware that claiming the attacks of the mujahidin to be senseless and questioning incessantly as to why we hate the West and why we fight them is nothing more than a political act and a propaganda tool. The politicians will say it regardless of how much it stands in opposition to facts and common sense just to garner as many votes as they can for the next election cycle. The analysts and journalists will say it in order to keep themselves from becoming a target for saying something that the masses deem to be "politically incorrect." The apostate "imams" in the West will adhere to the same tired cliché in order to avoid a backlash from the disbelieving societies in which they've chosen to reside. The point is, people know that it's foolish, but they keep repeating it regardless because they're afraid of the consequences of deviating from the script.


There are exceptions among the disbelievers, no doubt, people who will unabashedly declare that jihad and the laws of the Shari'ah – as well as everything else deemed taboo by the Islam-is-a-peaceful-religion crowd – are in fact completely Islamic, but they tend to be people with far less credibility who are painted as a social fringe, so their voices are dismissed and a large segment of the ignorant masses continues believing the false narrative. As such, it becomes important for us to clarify to the West in unequivocal terms – yet again – why we hate you and why we fight you.

The exasperated tone is grimly amusing.

The article then goes into a Buzzfeed-style 6-point checklist counting all the ways we fail Islam. Worth a look.

http://www.clarionproject.org/factsheets-files/islamic-state-magazine-dabiq-fifteen-breaking-the-cross.pdf#page=30
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Valmy

Does anybody think the ISIS types are not extremely religious in their motivation and ideology? I think the debate is to the extent they represent the other Muslims who disagree with them. You know, the people they hate and fight far more than the West and call apostates.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

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Valmy

By the way they found the guy who killed those two Muslims in New York: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-shooting-idUSKCN10O0X4

So I guess we might soon find out what his motive was. Weird.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."