Making a Murderer - Steven Avery story

[Berkut]

Yeah, I just posted this hear because I know we had talked about the Serial case in this thread, it doesn't have much to do with Avery except in the broadest of strokes.

I think Avery is almost certainly guilty, and deserves to be in jail.

I think Syed is maybe 50% likely to be guilty, and 100% should never have been convicted.

[Razgovory]

Dassey's conviction was just overturned.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I saw that--and I'll say, I do think Dassey's conviction was always more suspect. He was interrogated, as a minor, without a guardian present. Albeit my memory of the documentary has faded, but I thought his lawyer agreed to the interrogation (the New York Times article I'm reading suggests there was a custodial interrogation that occurred with neither parental or counsel signing off.) Or maybe they did, but he law is that even if counsel signs off on it, it's improper for police to interview a 16 year old without a guardian or counsel present? I dunno.

As I understand it, because Dassey later refused to testify the prosecution chose not to use his interview as evidence since it'd be impossible to use at trial since they couldn't call Dassey to the stand to testify to it, so I don't believe there's anything in the overturning of this conviction that changes anything in regard to Avery's case.