Pentagon ends ban on transgender troops in military

Started by garbon, June 30, 2016, 03:29:32 PM

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11B4V

#30
June 30, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
What PT test do they take?
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viper37

#31
July 01, 2016, 12:04:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 30, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
What PT test do they take?
the same one as the bathroom they use.
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#32
July 01, 2016, 01:50:46 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 30, 2016, 10:02:06 PM
Besides, it'd probably be a pay raise for you.

This part is true :cry:

derspiess

#33
July 01, 2016, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 30, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
What PT test do they take?

I'm sure they'll eventually dumb it down to the female PT standards, to get rid of the distinction.  "With minimal impact on readiness", of course.
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Jaron

#34
July 01, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
Wow...what's next for America? Child soldiers?
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Valmy

#35
July 01, 2016, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 01, 2016, 11:52:11 AM
I'm sure they'll eventually dumb it down to the female PT standards, to get rid of the distinction.  "With minimal impact on readiness", of course.

This strikes me as a strawman. You have insisted this is going on for years and yet I see no evidence of it occurring. Further I do not even see how it is related to this issue.
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Valmy

#36
July 01, 2016, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: Jaron on July 01, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
Wow...what's next for America? Child soldiers?

Well a large chunk of them already cannot legally drink :P
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#37
July 01, 2016, 12:46:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 01, 2016, 12:30:19 PM
This strikes me as a strawman.

I was firing from the hip.  But I don't see the strawman.

QuoteYou have insisted this is going on for years and yet I see no evidence of it occurring. Further I do not even see how it is related to this issue.

Lowering physical standards?  It has absolutely happened and is happening.  Airborne school used to be pure hell.  Now it's a joke and anyone can get through.  And the DoD has repeatedly told different service branches (Marines in particular re: infantry officer school) that if it can't come up with a "convincing argument" that the current physical standards are necessary, they must lower them to allow more women to get through.
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LaCroix

#38
July 01, 2016, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: Jaron on July 01, 2016, 12:21:50 PM
Wow...what's next for America? Child soldiers?

would cause a distraction for soldiers like siege

Valmy

#39
July 01, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Quote from: derspiess on July 01, 2016, 12:46:30 PM
Lowering physical standards?  It has absolutely happened and is happening.  Airborne school used to be pure hell.  Now it's a joke and anyone can get through.  And the DoD has repeatedly told different service branches (Marines in particular re: infantry officer school) that if it can't come up with a "convincing argument" that the current physical standards are necessary, they must lower them to allow more women to get through.

Bullshit. I have been hearing about this basically since the day Obama entered office. But still in 2015 I keep hearing about how 'this is coming' after all the women fail a fitness test for whatever. But hey digging up the physical fitness requirements from the DoD between 2009 and now should be easy enough. Show me the money.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Savonarola

#40
July 01, 2016, 01:56:32 PM
Now Klinger will never get that Section 8 discharge.   :(
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Valmy

#41
July 01, 2016, 02:13:42 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 01, 2016, 01:56:32 PM
Now Klinger will never get that Section 8 discharge.   :(

:lol:
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

11B4V

#42
July 01, 2016, 02:42:41 PM
Quote from: viper37 on July 01, 2016, 12:04:02 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on June 30, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
What PT test do they take?
the same one as the bathroom they use.

If you say so.

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"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

garbon

#43
July 01, 2016, 04:09:29 PM
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