Archaeologists do it in holes: Tales from the stratigraphy

Started by Maladict, May 27, 2016, 02:34:49 AM

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viper37

Oh shit!  
I thought everything had been done right, especially with the press conference and all. 
Damn :(
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Intriguing, 20 different Homo naledi individuals from the Rising Star cave were tested and they all turned out female.

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viper37

WWII assault tank found buried in sand near the North Sea

Visible gun barrel markings suggest the nearly complete StuG III took down at least 17 enemies. 


QuoteConstruction workers in Germany digging along the North Sea's rugged coast discovered a massive World War II relic painted with evidence of its dark past. According to archaeologists in the district of Cuxhaven, about 58 miles northwest of Hamburg, experts recently excavated a nearly complete Sturmgeschütz III (StuG III) assault vehicle. The remnants of this formidable tank have been buried in the sand beneath the Nordholz naval air base for over 80 years.

Similar to other tanks, the StuG III was Nazi Germany's most widely produced tracked vehicle during the war. The defense company Rheinmetall constructed over 9,300 of them throughout the war, only ceasing production in April 1945. Unlike other tanks, the StuG III's assault gun was fixed in place, instead of installed on a rotating turret. This meant its four-person crew needed to move and position it facing a target each time before firing. Despite its overall size, the StuG III felt much smaller from the interior.

"The view inside is very impressive. It feels oppressively cramped," Cuxhaven archaeological heritage director Andreas Hüser said in a recent interview.

These design features weren't necessarily limitations, however. Although researchers have yet to definitively prove that this particular StuG III saw combat, well-preserved details suggest it spent much of the war in action. At least 17 white marks are still visible on its gun barrel,likely a symbol for each enemy tank it destroyed.
Burying enemy weaponry and vehicles after a defeat may sound strange, but it was actually a relatively common practice from Allied forces following World War II's conclusion. Its location in dry sand at the edge of a slope also protected the StuG III from deterioration. Even after more than 80 years, portions of its original camouflage paint are still clearly visible, and some of its running gear remains undamaged. Near the StuG III, archaeologists also recovered remnants of small shells and light ammunition.

"Not only from an archaeological point of view but also simply because the vehicle is almost complete, this is an important find," explained Hüser. "Armored vehicles surviving in such a complete state are otherwise rare."
Experts are now prepping the StuG III for transport to Munster in August for additional preservation work. From there, it's scheduled for delivery to the Bundeswehr's Military History Museum in Dresden for public display.
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There are hundreds of StuG IIIs in junkyards, and probably a hundred in various museums.
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Josquius

Makes me wonder, how long after the war would this become an archaeological find vs digging up something buried for a reason?
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Tonitrus

Perhaps reaching the point where everyone who fought in the war has passed...WW2 is just about at that point, and I think probably already somewhat qualifies.

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Tonitrus on June 27, 2026, 11:21:02 AMPerhaps reaching the point where everyone who fought in the war has passed...WW2 is just about at that point, and I think probably already somewhat qualifies.

It's earlier. Ww1 remnants were considered archeology quite a while before the last veterans had passed.
When doing my archeology internships a quarter of a century ago ww2 artifacts were treated as archeology already too.

Maladict

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on June 27, 2026, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 27, 2026, 11:21:02 AMPerhaps reaching the point where everyone who fought in the war has passed...WW2 is just about at that point, and I think probably already somewhat qualifies.

It's earlier. Ww1 remnants were considered archeology quite a while before the last veterans had passed.
When doing my archeology internships a quarter of a century ago ww2 artifacts were treated as archeology already too.

Yeah, it's about 50 years.

HVC

How many years to move from grave robbing to archeology though? Still 50? :P
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: HVC on June 27, 2026, 05:20:53 PMHow many years to move from grave robbing to archeology though? Still 50? :P

Depends on context.
You can dig up a grave as archaeology even if it is just a year old. Just like you can still rob a grave even if it's been there for millennia.
 :P

HVC

Sweet. Got me a shovel and I know where the rich people cemetery is. All I need now is a metal detector and one of the miners head lamps  :bowler:
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