Even if Trump is Hitler, could he turn the US into the Third Reich?

Started by Martinus, May 20, 2016, 02:10:33 PM

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Kleves

Also Austin 3:16
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

LaCroix

Quote from: Razgovory on May 21, 2016, 04:42:23 AM
He also had a great deal of contempt for the rule of law.

does this refer to the trail of tears and his whole "the supreme court has decided, now let them try to enforce their decision" (paraphrase), because if so this is actually a myth. jackson never went against SCOTUS in that sense, and he never actually said that quote that floats around

Quote from: crazy canuckGiven his popularity I am not so sure his ideology (I agree that is probably the wrong word) has widely spread.   When I see large groups of people at a Trump meeting chanting that he will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it I can't help wonder what further nonsense large groups of people will accept.

it's not so much the large groups of (typically) working class, more that factions within the US's political elite, andeducated groups like judges, etc. would need to start supporting him. I don't think america's upper echelons will ever support trump in that same sense

Valmy

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 20, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
Very democratic, if you didn't happen to be Cherokee.  Rather like Israeli democracy, isn't it? :ph34r:

When two Americans and a Cherokee vote on who gets Georgia...
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2016, 10:35:47 PM
When two Americans and a Cherokee vote on who gets Georgia...

Quote from: C.J. Marshall, Worcester v. Georgia, 1832The very fact of repeated treaties with them recognizes it, and the settled doctrine of the law of nations is that a weaker power does not surrender its independence -- its right to self-government -- by associating with a stronger and taking its protection.

A weak State, in order to provide for its safety, may place itself under the protection of one more powerful without stripping itself of the right of government and ceasing to be a State. Examples of this kind are not wanting in Europe. "Tributary and feudatory states," says Vattel, "do not thereby cease to be sovereign and independent states, so long as self-government and sovereign and independent authority are left in the administration of the state."  At the present day, more than one state may be considered as holding its right of self-government under the guarantee and protection of one or more allies. 

The Cherokee Nation, then, is a distinct community occupying its own territory, with boundaries accurately described, in which the laws of Georgia can have no force, and which the citizens of Georgia have no right to enter but with the assent of the Cherokees themselves, or in conformity with treaties and with the acts of Congress. The whole intercourse between the United States and this Nation, is, by our Constitution and laws, vested in the Government of the United States.

Jackson never said his infamous quote, but it essentially became fact anyways
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Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on May 21, 2016, 10:35:47 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 20, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
Very democratic, if you didn't happen to be Cherokee.  Rather like Israeli democracy, isn't it? :ph34r:

When two Americans and a Cherokee vote on who gets Georgia...

And Putin gets it in the end anyway.

Martinus

Quote from: Monoriu on May 21, 2016, 04:51:35 AM
Trump is a much greater threat to the US than Japan or Germany ever was.

Wow, your Chicom human rights abusing masters must be really shitting their pants that they make you post this crap.

Razgovory

I doubt it.  They probably think they can make a "deal" with Trump over Taiwan.  They forgive the debt, and he gives them their island back.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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