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Large Scale Battle In BCE 1250 Germany

Started by Jacob, March 24, 2016, 05:39:56 PM

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Awesome find, very interesting article.
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Queequeg

Quote from: The Brain on March 25, 2016, 03:11:39 AM
Last refuge of the hunter/gatherer?
This is many hundreds of years after the Proto-Germanic peoples had settled the region.  It seems a lot more likely it was a conflict between different types of Indo-European peoples, as is indicated by the large presence of people who did not live in Denmark.  I'd guess something like a conflict between groups like Satem-speakers (the ancestors of Slavs, Dacians, Thracians, Scytho-Sarmatians) and Centum speakers.  The Germanic languages kind of have characteristics of both so God only knows who won.
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Quote from: Queequeg on March 25, 2016, 10:35:35 AM
Quote from: The Brain on March 25, 2016, 03:11:39 AM
Last refuge of the hunter/gatherer?
This is many hundreds of years after the Proto-Germanic peoples had settled the region.  It seems a lot more likely it was a conflict between different types of Indo-European peoples, as is indicated by the large presence of people who did not live in Denmark.  I'd guess something like a conflict between groups like Satem-speakers (the ancestors of Slavs, Dacians, Thracians, Scytho-Sarmatians) and Centum speakers.  The Germanic languages kind of have characteristics of both so God only knows who won.

I know who won: international arrowhead suppliers.
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Razgovory

Quote from: alfred russel on March 24, 2016, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on March 24, 2016, 08:37:13 PM
So much for the peaceful, proto-socialist, Pre-Indo-European matriarchy.

Raz, BCE 1250 was well after the indo european migrations began.

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Tonitrus

Quote from: PDH on March 24, 2016, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: dps on March 24, 2016, 09:03:25 PM
And second, in those days, you didn't have to be a soldier to get serious injuries--it's likely that a great many people often suffered serious or even fatal injuries just in the everyday course of trying to get enough food to survive as a hunter/gatherer.

By 1250 BCE farming and animal husbandry (not THAT kind, Brain) was the norm, not foraging.  The Beaker people were farmers centuries before 1250 BCE.

:unsure:


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Quote from: Tonitrus on March 25, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 24, 2016, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: dps on March 24, 2016, 09:03:25 PM
And second, in those days, you didn't have to be a soldier to get serious injuries--it's likely that a great many people often suffered serious or even fatal injuries just in the everyday course of trying to get enough food to survive as a hunter/gatherer.

By 1250 BCE farming and animal husbandry (not THAT kind, Brain) was the norm, not foraging.  The Beaker people were farmers centuries before 1250 BCE.

:unsure:


They were a proud race of beaker makers. 
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Siege

Please. Barbarians fighting each other.
Hardly a large scale battle.


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Norgy

Quote from: Siege on March 31, 2016, 02:57:44 PM
Please. Barbarians fighting each other.
Hardly a large scale battle.

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: Siege on March 31, 2016, 02:57:44 PM
Please. Barbarians fighting each other.
Hardly a large scale battle.

No kidding. A million people crashing into each other with swords isn't nearly as grand a scale as a dozen commandos trying to take a fortified farmhouse.  :huh:
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"All men are created equal, then some become infantry."

"Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."

"Laissez faire et laissez passer, le monde va de lui même!"


Norgy

I am curious, though, if and if so why they used cavalry.
Wooded areas were death traps.

Only around 1180 were cavalry used as a force in Norway, and it wasn't for a lack of horses.

The Brain

Quote from: Norgy on April 01, 2016, 03:38:30 PM
I am curious, though, if and if so why they used cavalry.
Wooded areas were death traps.

Only around 1180 were cavalry used as a force in Norway, and it wasn't for a lack of horses.

Cavalry in 1250 BC?
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Grinning_Colossus

When do a bunch of guys riding around on horses with spears and clubs become a cavalry force?
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