Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

Started by Josquius, February 20, 2016, 07:46:34 AM

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How would you vote on Britain remaining in the EU?

British- Remain
12 (12%)
British - Leave
7 (7%)
Other European - Remain
21 (21%)
Other European - Leave
6 (6%)
ROTW - Remain
34 (34%)
ROTW - Leave
20 (20%)

Total Members Voted: 98

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Sheilbh

#11340
November 27, 2019, 05:03:26 PM Last Edit: November 27, 2019, 05:09:01 PM by Sheilbh
The YouGov MRP :o

Tory majority of 68. Big breakthrough in the Midlands :ph34r:


But, you know, two weeks is a long time in politics :ph34r:

Edit: Also, Valmy :lol: :console:

And apparently the tipping point back into a hung parliament is a Tory lead of 7 points instead of 11, which is closer than they'd probably like.
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Habbaku

#11341
November 27, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
The Lib-Dems can still win!
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Razgovory

#11342
November 27, 2019, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 27, 2019, 11:18:30 AM

Well, its dps who mentioned the soviets  :P Anyway, the most authoritarian examples of an ideology is the first place where one is likely to find bigotry. And yes, the SU, like in many things, had officially a bunch of good policies in respect to minorities that were there for propaganda purposes and not adhered much to, in reality.

Anyway, left wing parties aren't immune to bigotry. Much of the populist left is antiglobalisation, and from there it is a relatively short trip to nativism and antisemitism. That said, so far I have only witnessed it on the very fringes.


I've seen on the fringes here as well. When Rep. Omar made some comments that alluded to antisemitic canards Nancy Pelosi brought her to heel quick.  Trump tried to make use of this by claiming that Democrats are antisemitic.  Then he claimed that Jews who voted for Democrats were disloyal, which pretty much shot that political strategy in the foot.
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Josquius

#11343
November 27, 2019, 06:38:42 PM Last Edit: November 27, 2019, 06:43:08 PM by Tyr
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 27, 2019, 05:03:26 PM
The YouGov MRP :o

Tory majority of 68. Big breakthrough in the Midlands :ph34r:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKaU9cdWwAUh2-J?format=jpg&name=small

But, you know, two weeks is a long time in politics :ph34r:

Edit: Also, Valmy :lol: :console:

And apparently the tipping point back into a hung parliament is a Tory lead of 7 points instead of 11, which is closer than they'd probably like.

Awful lot of tories in Scotland. Find it hard to believe that if we had AV it would look the same up there. We really have to hope for more tactical voting.

And poor lib dems.... So much for taking the place of the sane tories.

It seems Farage dropping out may have been enough to win it for them. Did anything come of the former candidates he conned wanting to run anyway?
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Tamas

#11344
November 27, 2019, 07:45:40 PM
It is ridiculous that what dives Tory support is a desire to see a Tory-created mess end.

Valmy

#11345
November 27, 2019, 11:41:58 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 27, 2019, 05:03:26 PM
Edit: Also, Valmy :lol: :console:

Hey man elections rarely go the way I would like anywhere in the world these days :lol:

If you are not a socialist or a right wing nationalist things are not likely to go your way.
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Richard Hakluyt

#11346
November 28, 2019, 02:11:38 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on November 27, 2019, 05:45:46 PM
The Lib-Dems can still win!

Forward....at a moderate pace.......to Victory!!!!

Tamas

#11347
November 28, 2019, 03:44:02 AM
If Johnson and his carefully selected band of crooks and idiots can win a majority of 67, then it will be high time Brits stop sneering at Americans for Trump.

Josquius

#11348
November 28, 2019, 04:47:36 AM
Quote from: Tamas on November 28, 2019, 03:44:02 AM
If Johnson and his carefully selected band of crooks and idiots can win a majority of 67, then it will be high time Brits stop sneering at Americans for Trump.

We are already way ahead thanks to brexit.
Mocking trump is a way to remind ourselves of happier times.
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Legbiter

#11349
November 28, 2019, 06:49:27 AM
Interesting. Seems there's quite a few Labour voters holding their noses and voting Tory to get Brexit over with. Corbyn might be out come next election and things will shift again.
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Josquius

#11350
November 28, 2019, 06:54:40 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on November 28, 2019, 06:49:27 AM
Interesting. Seems there's quite a few Labour voters holding their noses and voting Tory to get Brexit over with. Corbyn might be out come next election and things will shift again.

Yeah, which is truly bizzare considering what Johnson is offering is not to get brexit over with but for several more years of the same. Only with the UK in a weakened position.
But... Marketing.
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Legbiter

#11351
November 28, 2019, 07:12:05 AM
Can't really blame them for a grim determination to get this over with.
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mongers

#11352
November 28, 2019, 07:43:35 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on November 28, 2019, 07:12:05 AM
Can't really blame them for a grim determination to get this over with.

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frunk

#11353
November 28, 2019, 07:49:13 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on November 28, 2019, 07:12:05 AM
Can't really blame them for a grim determination to get this over with.

If Brexit happens it's just the start of dealing with Brexit.  It doesn't get anything over with.

Maladict

#11354
November 28, 2019, 07:53:09 AM
Quote from: frunk on November 28, 2019, 07:49:13 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on November 28, 2019, 07:12:05 AM
Can't really blame them for a grim determination to get this over with.

If Brexit happens it's just the start of dealing with Brexit.  It doesn't get anything over with.

People seem to think that the deal has already resolved all the issues, and just placing a signature will magically restore the Empire.

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