Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Josquius]

Labour seem to be going for Norwayish. Though without free movement. Somehow.
Hopefully they'd sacrifice the free movement (the thing we should be fighting to keep, not trying to get rid of, jeez) for the trade.

So having your cake and eating it too. Again. Why do Brits think the EU would ever accept that? Do they not understand that a Union has pros and cons? You can't just have the pros. Jesus. It's not rocket science.

Well, there's always the Swiss route.
They solved their brexit, after a lengthy messy period with Europe, by implementing a law which said companies have to advertise all jobs locally at first (for 3 months iirc?)  and prioritise local applicants.

Which...in our internet age....In practice doesn't really mean anything since companies already prefer someone living in the area rather than someone who has to relocate.

[Josquius]

Vintage BBC report from the 70s is remarkably modern in the ignorance of  certain people

https://youtu.be/rLp6PpqpWjg?t=663

[Tamas]

Short for Chuka.

I've just realised this.  I wonder if they intended to sound like named after their spokeperson/main guy.

I think this move was the most risky for Chuka BTW. On TV he always seemed like potential future PM material. Confident, well-manered, and sane. Ok, the last one is a bit out of favour nowadays, but can't be so forever.

[Josquius]

I think he is playing the long game. A few years in the wilderness whilst labour taints itself. Swoop in to say I told you so and save them decades down the line.

[Tamas]

I think he is playing the long game. A few years in the wilderness whilst labour taints itself. Swoop in to say I told you so and save them decades down the line.

Could be.

[Iormlund]

Again!

[Barrister]

Again!

What's going on now?

[Tamas]

Again!

What's going on now?

After rejecting 8 alternatives, they have narrowed it down to 4 of those to vote on again. All of them have been rejected, again.

So, the House of Commons have rejected:

1. the EU's deal on the table as negotiated by the British government
2. leaving without a deal
3. cancelling Brexit
4. absolutely fucking everything between the above two extremes

[ulmont]

Again!

What's going on now?

Last week Parliament put up 8 "indicative votes."  All 8 failed.

Today Parliament put up 4.  All 4 failed.  One only by 3 and one only by 12, so they may yet coalesce around something (looks like a customs union).

[Iormlund]

They voted again on:

(C) Customs union - SELECTED LAST WEEK - FOR/AGAINST 264/272 SELECTED

Clarke, Benn, Goodman, Letwin et al

Ensure any WA and political declaration negotiated with EU includes a commitment to negotiate a comprehensive UK wide customs union with EU, ironclad it in primary legislation (an act).

(D) Common market 2.0 ("A load of Boles") - SELECTED LAST WEEK - FOR/AGAINST 188/283 SELECTED

Boles, Kinnock, Powell, Percy, et al

Re-open negotiations with EU, try for Efta but not quite Efta to allow a customs union, no hard border in ireland, negotiate new rule to specify that EEA citizens must be "genuinely seeking work" and have "sufficient resources not to become a burden on the UK's social assistance system".

(E) Confirmatory public vote - SELECTED LAST WEEK - FOR/AGAINST 268/295 SELECTED

Beckett, Kyle, Wilson, Whitford, et al

Nothing to be done without a public vote confirming a selected course of action.

Plus:

(G) Parliamentary Supremacy - NEW ENTRY SELECTED

Cherry, Grieve, Cable, Roberts,Wollaston, Bradshaw

If we get to the 10th of April with no passed act of parliament for a course of action, the government must immediately seek an extension from the EC under article 50.

If, after this, there is no agreement reached as a result of this course of action by midday of the last day before Brexit, HMG must immediately put a motion to the HoC to approve No Deal.

If, after this, the HoC does NOT approve No Deal, HMG must immediately revoke our Article 50 notification; an Inquiry shall be brought by a member of the house under the Inquiries Act 2005 (Note: For those who dont know, this means all the fucking bells and whistles like the Leveson Inquiry) to investigate whether there is a model of a future relationship with the EU is likely to have some majority support in the UK; and this Inquiry must start within 3 months of the revocation.

Further, if there is a referendum to be held it must ask the question whether to trigger Art 50 and/or renegotiate the model found by the inquiry.

All failed, though the Customs Union was voted down by a handful of votes.

[Josquius]

Jeez. These numbers are so damn tight.
I am getting very close to wishing for the IRA to show their faces or some shit like that.

The sad part is there remain many Labour MPs voting against the sane options. And not just those in the wrong party like hooey

[celedhring]

So I guess May will try to get another Meaningless Vote on her deal?

[The Brain]

Why would Parliament need to approve No Deal? It's the default position. Does Parliament often vote on "Do Nothing On This Particular Issue"?

[Admiral Yi]

Donald has only said one retarded thing in the last few days, so we're ahead right now.

[HisMajestyBOB]

Brexit has really been amazing and provide much needed comic relief from our own dumpster fire politics. The Brits should really be commended for going above and beyond to entertain.