Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Tamas]

Thank you Nostratamas

You don't have any more idea of what will happen that, say, Teresa May.

Well, I also have the exact same level of control over what will happen as she does.

[Gups]

Thank you Nostratamas

You don't have any more idea of what will happen that, say, Teresa May.

Well, I also have the exact same level of control over what will happen as she does.

Certainly looks that way, huh?

[Jacob]

Thank you Nostratamas

Very apt.

[mongers]

Thank you Nostratamas

Very apt.

Tamas is a glass is half full kind of guy, half full of dark, forbidding,  cloudy waters.

[Tamas]

 

IDK what you are talking about. I am all sunshine and happiness.

[Josquius]

Normal working people by and large voted remain (statistically working people majority voted remain) . Enough of them however were tricked into supporting the other side to make the difference.
This whole thing is not the will of the people. It never was. Until the referendum Europe was very low on the list of issues people cared about.
It was however top of the list for the racist minority and the neo thatcherites saw this as a brilliant opportunity to push forward with the deconstruction of the state (earning themselves a few million in the process).

Just do a fucking google search before you post.

Poor people, working class people, people in the north vote Leave

Rich people, graduates, Londoners voted Remain.

Do some research and you'll find that despite this being the message the media wants to force down our throats it has little bearing in reality.
The northern working class certainly weren't the ardent remainers they should have been. But they weren't the big brexit supporters they are painted as either.
The north was pretty split, with a narrow leave win in most areas. It was the poorer parts of the south where you find most of the heavily pro brexit areas.
Here's a map which is a bit better than the standard two tone one of showing the result:



South of the Humber is where you get the main fortress of scumbags.

Also can't find the link now, I think it was Ashcroft's research, but working people majority voted remain. It was non-working people that pushed Brexit over the line.

Tyr's on a roll. Neo libs are brexiteers! The workers have been brainwashed by the running dogs of capitalism! War is peace!

Have you seen UKIP's manifestos?
That brexit the movie crap?
That's what this whole thing is about.

[Tamas]

How does that map prove your point? Your Heaven of Coal Workers Paradise North went for Leave big time.

[garbon]

How does that map prove your point? Your Heaven of Coal Workers Paradise North went for Leave big time.

I think he's using Hull as the dividing point (well as he said the Humber) so he's putting the darkest red points in the south of England. (Which I think is where the east midlands are often put though that seems like strange geography to a foreigner - I'm sure our other English posters can provide us better instruction )

[The Minsky Moment]

So . . . basically the Danelaw went for Brexit.

[Admiral Yi]

Did the Isle of Man not vote?

[The Larch]

Did the Isle of Man not vote?

Technically it's not part of the UK.

[Josquius]

I think he's using Hull as the dividing point (well as he said the Humber) so he's putting the darkest red points in the south of England. (Which I think is where the east midlands are often put though that seems like strange geography to a foreigner - I'm sure our other English posters can provide us better instruction )

The southern boundary of the north runs basically from the Humber to the Mersey (well, the Dee actually, but the Mersey is more famous).
Yorkshire and Lancashire are the north.
Lincolnshire and Cheshire are not.

Admittedly the Midlands are a weird place. They're in the south but in some metrics often have more in common with the north.
It's wrong to call them the north however. They're either the south or their own thing.

How does that map prove your point? Your Heaven of Coal Workers Paradise North went for Leave big time.

No. The north has a few patches of blue (most of the big cities) and largely light reds.
In European region terms it was the Midlands and East of England that were the big pro leave areas (as the map shows).
These are the poorer parts of the south. Not the north.

[Gups]

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No. The north has a few patches of blue (most of the big cities) and largely light reds.
In European region terms it was the Midlands and East of England that were the big pro leave areas (as the map shows).
These are the poorer parts of the south. Not the north.

Sigh. The North-East and Yorkshire/Humber all had high Leave vote shares.

The only English region to vote Remain was London. The next closest was the South-East, followed by the South-West

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028

[Gups]

I think he's using Hull as the dividing point (well as he said the Humber) so he's putting the darkest red points in the south of England. (Which I think is where the east midlands are often put though that seems like strange geography to a foreigner - I'm sure our other English posters can provide us better instruction )

The southern boundary of the north runs basically from the Humber to the Mersey (well, the Dee actually, but the Mersey is more famous).
Yorkshire and Lancashire are the north.
Lincolnshire and Cheshire are not.

Admittedly the Midlands are a weird place. They're in the south but in some metrics often have more in common with the north.
It's wrong to call them the north however. They're either the south or their own thing.

So according to you Grimsby is in the south, even though it is further north than Sheffield, Manchester and Liverpool.

The Midlands is the Midlands.

[Gups]

And here's how the Brexit vote broke down by class (and age)