Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[celedhring]

You know, you can clearly see Corbyn is a lazy good for nothing by his god damn little tree in front of his entrance:



He has to duck every time he exists or enters his home. He could do something about it, you know, it's his yard. But nooo.

I'm not that sure whether not trimming his tree disqualifies him from holding office, but I admit that I saw a clip on the Spanish news this morning and it was really awkward

[Zanza]

Germany has ruled out informal talks before Article 50 is triggered by Britain, but doesn't think that Britain needs to trigger Article 50 immediately.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/europe-leaders-crunch-talks-brexit-fallout

Also from that article:

The prime minister [Cameron] reportedly told the commission's president, Jean-Claude Juncker, at a 2014 G20 summit that he could win a referendum "by a margin of 70 to 30". Juncker replied that even Luxembourg would not vote to stay in the EU by such a big majority, according to one EU diplomat.

[mongers]

....
Also from that article:

The prime minister [Cameron] reportedly told the commission's president, Jean-Claude Juncker, at a 2014 G20 summit that he could win a referendum "by a margin of 70 to 30". Juncker replied that even Luxembourg would not vote to stay in the EU by such a big majority, according to one EU diplomat.

It's inexcusable that a PR professional ends up swallowing his own BS and believing it.

[grumbler]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/labour-mp-tells-jeremy-corbyn-its-not-about-you?utm_term=.psk3eVBop#.gevKwxo4J

Labour MP Jess Phillips Tells Jeremy Corbyn "It's Not About You" As She Quits As Aide


Dear Jeremy,

I feel a bit silly writing to resign from my position as the Parliamentary Private Secretary in your shadow education team. It seems a big grand, being as I'm sure most people don't pay the position I had any mind at all, but apparently it is what we do.

I want to thank you for, in the most part responding to me, if I had questions. You haven't had an easy ride, you remained calm throughout.

My main concern is that I'm not sure how good you are at using what people say or need to enact change. I think in this time of huge shifts the opposition myst be at its strongest and its best. Saying stuff won't cut it. We are going to need strong heads, open flexible hearts and detailed forensic wits.

Writing to saying anything against you risks my job, the livelihood of my family, the threats are already rolling in. Turns out when you stand up for what you believe you are principled. When I do it I am an opportunist, careerist Blairite or even a Zionist plotter. Funny that, I am a socialist. I live my life as a socialist. I speak up regardless of the risk because I am considerably less important than the struggle.

I love being the MP in Yardley, never a day goes by when my constituents don't make me smile or make me want to stay up all night fighting their corner. I'd give up tomorrow if I thought my going would rid my constituents of a government that leaves many of them in despair. My mom and dad taught me that socialism isn't words, it's action, deeds not words and all that.

The Labour party is not about you, it's about us, most of all it's about them, the brilliant people in the UK, even the ones who don't agree with us. We need action, we really needed it last week, the week before.

I'm really worried that you cannot see that you have made this all about you and not about them. Be the socialist you saw you are, do the right thing and let the Labour party be the opposition it needs to be now, when people need it most.

All the best, I know none of this has been easy on you and your loves ones. Nobody deserves some for the crap you have put up with. Sorry if I was ever to blame for any upset, perhaps sometimes I took straight talking honest politics a little too literally.

She should have had somebody read that and edit it before sending it out.  That's horrible (or maybe fake) writing.

[garbon]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/labour-mp-tells-jeremy-corbyn-its-not-about-you?utm_term=.psk3eVBop#.gevKwxo4J

Labour MP Jess Phillips Tells Jeremy Corbyn "It's Not About You" As She Quits As Aide


Dear Jeremy,

I feel a bit silly writing to resign from my position as the Parliamentary Private Secretary in your shadow education team. It seems a big grand, being as I'm sure most people don't pay the position I had any mind at all, but apparently it is what we do.

I want to thank you for, in the most part responding to me, if I had questions. You haven't had an easy ride, you remained calm throughout.

My main concern is that I'm not sure how good you are at using what people say or need to enact change. I think in this time of huge shifts the opposition myst be at its strongest and its best. Saying stuff won't cut it. We are going to need strong heads, open flexible hearts and detailed forensic wits.

Writing to saying anything against you risks my job, the livelihood of my family, the threats are already rolling in. Turns out when you stand up for what you believe you are principled. When I do it I am an opportunist, careerist Blairite or even a Zionist plotter. Funny that, I am a socialist. I live my life as a socialist. I speak up regardless of the risk because I am considerably less important than the struggle.

I love being the MP in Yardley, never a day goes by when my constituents don't make me smile or make me want to stay up all night fighting their corner. I'd give up tomorrow if I thought my going would rid my constituents of a government that leaves many of them in despair. My mom and dad taught me that socialism isn't words, it's action, deeds not words and all that.

The Labour party is not about you, it's about us, most of all it's about them, the brilliant people in the UK, even the ones who don't agree with us. We need action, we really needed it last week, the week before.

I'm really worried that you cannot see that you have made this all about you and not about them. Be the socialist you saw you are, do the right thing and let the Labour party be the opposition it needs to be now, when people need it most.

All the best, I know none of this has been easy on you and your loves ones. Nobody deserves some for the crap you have put up with. Sorry if I was ever to blame for any upset, perhaps sometimes I took straight talking honest politics a little too literally.

She should have had somebody read that and edit it before sending it out.  That's horrible (or maybe fake) writing.

It is unclear to me if she wrote than (and the typos) or if someone on buzzfeed typed it from the scanned in letter and hence typos.

[mongers]

It is unclear to me if she wrote than (and the typos) or if someone on buzzfeed typed it from the scanned in letter and hence typos.

Somewhat cleaned up version here:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jess-phillips-resignation-letter-jeremy-8292559

[Sheilbh]

Well she did always say that if she thought Corban was hurting the Labour Party she wouldn't stab him in the back, she'd stab him in the front

[Sheilbh]

Corban has now lost 70% of his shadow cabinet from Sunday. There are only 9 members left. Two are his closest allies and one can't leave because he's deputy leader

[celedhring]

Is there any reason you keep calling him "Corban"? Is there some clever pun at play that I'm missing?

[Duque de Bragança]

Comparing Corbyn seems a bit unfair to Orban. Orban is better as a demagogue.

[Sheilbh]

Auto correct I think 

Owen Smith had a face to face to resign. He asked if Corbyn was prepared to split the party over this. Corbyn replied 'if necessary.'

[Valmy]

That is what happens when you put in the fanatical ideologue.

The perfect will always take down the good.

[alfred russel]

Boris Johnson has a rather encouraging article out today, making the case that the sky isn't about to fall:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/i-cannot-stress-too-much-that-britain-is-part-of-europe--and-alw/

[alfred russel]

Corban has now lost 70% of his shadow cabinet from Sunday. There are only 9 members left. Two are his closest allies and one can't leave because he's deputy leader

So I get that Corbyn is a disaster, but why is Labour melting down so spectacularly at the moment?

[Richard Hakluyt]

Auto correct I think 

Owen Smith had a face to face to resign. He asked if Corbyn was prepared to split the party over this. Corbyn replied 'if necessary.'

Corbyn is, literally, a Bolshevik.