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[derspiess]

look at dguller's nonsense

I usually try not to.

[DGuller]

It's not that hard to see. He speaks his mind and loudly calls bullshit when he sees it.  No filter.  It also helps that he is saying what most of them are thinking.

it's certainly hard to see for some people. look at dguller's nonsense

You've got no standing to call anyone's posts nonsense.

[derspiess]

You guys need to stop assuming that all poor people are natural socialists.

Hey! I don't think ALL poor people are national socialists.

As soon as I typed that I figured someone would make that connection.  Just surprised it took over three minutes

[Berkut]

It's not that hard to see. He speaks his mind and loudly calls bullshit when he sees it.  No filter.  It also helps that he is saying what most of them are thinking.

it's certainly hard to see for some people. look at dguller's nonsense

Are you guys *intentionally* acting in exactly the manner DG described in order to make some kind of point?

Trump does not "loudly call bullshit" when he sees it. He loudly bitches and complains when anyone criticizes him. That isn't remotely the same thing at all.

His entire message is centered strictly around himself and total populism. "I am going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" isn't calling out obvious bullshit nobody else is talking about. "Let's register Muslims" isn't calling out bullshit. "NBC is publishing fake news!" is not calling out bullshit. "Lets cut taxes on me and my super rich friends" is not calling out bullshit. "Lets put a certifiable moron in charge of the DOE" is not calling out bullshit.

Now, you guys wonder why you get crap, but the examples of where he is actually calling out bullshit, is when he is defining as bullshit things that only dumbshits thinks is true. Like denial of climate change, or spiceys favorite "Obama isn't an American". Is that the bullshit you are talking about? Bullshit like "Hillary should not be in jail"?

You guys are literally making shit up in your head in order to shoehorn him into what you wish he actually was, rather than what he clearly keeps proving himself to be, over and over and over again.

[Admiral Yi]

It's not that hard to see. He speaks his mind and loudly calls bullshit when he sees it.  No filter.  They absolutely love that, because that's how they act when they're amongst themselves.  It also helps that he is saying what most of them are thinking. 

You guys need to stop assuming that all poor people are natural socialists.

I generally liked this post.  The one part i had trouble with is the bolded bit, which suggests to me that he is actually right.  Did you mean that, or something else?

[frunk]

Does Trump wear contacts?  I assume there is bullshit on them.

[LaCroix]

I don't think intolerance is the reason behind trump's success. as was often reported during the election, a lot of trump supporters didn't care about what he said, because they knew it was bullshit. instead, it was more like what derspiess said. they felt trump was on their side and would fight for them. that's not intolerance, insane, or literally being unable to think. it's maybe "wrong" they felt that way, but many people are "wrong" about the way they feel. the nutso anti-science liberals are similarly "wrong," etc. same with the anti-finance liberals. there are many groups in the US who rely on feelings over facts. in fact, everyone at some point relies on feelings over fact.

your whole argument is relying on your feelings about trump supporters over the actual facts about them.

[LaCroix]

I generally liked this post.  The one part i had trouble with is the bolded bit, which suggests to me that he is actually right.  Did you mean that, or something else?

I could be wrong, but I took derspiess's comment to mean he didn't come off as a typical politician who might play around the bush. trump came out and said strong things about all sorts of topics. he was aggressive as hell, and some people loved that about him. just look at his core supporters who kept telling him he needed to be even more aggressive during the campaign whenever he started cooling down a bit.

[Valmy]

So they knew everything was bullshit but expected him to fight for them?

the nutso anti-science liberals are similarly "wrong,"

How the fuck is that reassuring?

same with the anti-finance liberals.

Again how the fuck is that reassuring?

there are many groups in the US who rely on feelings over facts. in fact, everyone at some point relies on feelings over fact.

So?

your whole argument is relying on your feelings about trump supporters over the actual facts about them.

Your facts about them are pretty damn horrifying. Anti-vaxxers (hardly exclusively left wing btw) and socialist nutcases are supposed to reassure me somehow?

[derspiess]

It's not that hard to see. He speaks his mind and loudly calls bullshit when he sees it.  No filter.  They absolutely love that, because that's how they act when they're amongst themselves.  It also helps that he is saying what most of them are thinking. 

You guys need to stop assuming that all poor people are natural socialists.

I generally liked this post.  The one part i had trouble with is the bolded bit, which suggests to me that he is actually right.  Did you mean that, or something else?

I meant he was calling bullshit.  Not that what he calls bullshit is always actual bullshit.

[Admiral Yi]

I meant he was calling bullshit.  Not that what he calls bullshit is always actual bullshit.

So, like, he accuses lots of people of lying?  That kind of calling bullshit?

[LaCroix]

So they knew everything was bullshit but expected him to fight for them?

How the fuck is that reassuring?

Again how the fuck is that reassuring?

So?

Your facts about them are pretty damn horrifying. Anti-vaxxers (hardly exclusively left wing btw) and socialist nutcases are supposed to reassure me somehow?

they knew stuff like his syria plan, the tax audits, his defense against the sex accusations, etc., were bs. they largely knew when he lied, they just didn't care, because at the end of the day he was trump -- the outsider, and fuck it why not. they understood he was a risk. they were willing to gamble on the hope that maybe he'd do good by them. they saw hillary as being absolutely against them, and even if trump flaked, there was still the possibility he would work to help them.

now, this goes against The Facts, but berniebots did something very similar, and do a whole lot of other groups today and throughout history.

[derspiess]

I meant he was calling bullshit.  Not that what he calls bullshit is always actual bullshit.

So, like, he accuses lots of people of lying?  That kind of calling bullshit?

Pretty much.  And it helps when he's calling out people this group doesn't like.  It's like he's standing up for them.  He's not, but they feel like he is.

[derspiess]

You guys are literally making shit up in your head in order to shoehorn him into what you wish he actually was,

That's an interesting thing for you to be accusing others of doing

[LaCroix]

You guys are literally making shit up in your head in order to shoehorn him into what you wish he actually was, rather than what he clearly keeps proving himself to be, over and over and over again.

you're missing the point of my and probably derspiess's posts on this topic.